I don't want to keep this debate going, so I am just making a final comment on this topic:
Originally Posted by Alexei Belyakov
Keep trying to make sense out of Al-Qaeda. Out of why they destroy things.
Terrorists don't do things for the heck of it. There is always a motive, even with crazy people. It doesn't have to be a logic most people follow, and the lack of understanding of one person or persons doesn't mean that they have no reason.
Originally Posted by Fudgie
I understand it fine mon ami. I've been saying this stuff forever against those who kept going on that Bane and Talia were following LOS ideals.
You know basing them on real life terrorist idiots who make no sense doesn't mean they're good villains and their plan is good. Especially when you had Ra's and Joker with good plans that made sense.
Ra's wanted to restore balance to dirty cities like Gotham. Makes sense. Joker wanted to prove Gotham can pushed into being crazy like him. Makes sense.
Killing crime free city. Makes no sense.
I think this post sums up my feelings very well
And, coming back full circle to the topic of the thread, it is the plot's lack of logic that I think hurt the film and has rendered it not Oscar worthy.