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Old 11-17-2012, 01:09 PM   #282
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Default Re: Skyfall vs. TDKR

Originally Posted by Tony Stark View Post
I think that TDKR is a very good movie, but it didn't live up to the hype, and I don't know that any movie could have lived up to that much hype, it wasn't the best Nolan batman film, and IMO, it's not as good as Batman '89.
Yup agreed. I don't even think that much of Burton's Batman but even that was better than Rises.

Originally Posted by Brain Damage View Post
Fantastic article, really digs into the thematic problems with TDKR, and more importantly, how they could have been avoided.
Quoted for truth. Thanks for posting that, J-Man. That's what I'm talkin' about.

Originally Posted by Brain Damage View Post
rickfox, no offense, especially if English isn't your first language, but could you at least TRY to have some grammatical structure in your posts? It makes your arguments seem quite convoluted and half the time I'm not quite sure what the point you're trying to make is.

Also about the color coding and making certain words bigger, I can't for the life of me understand why you'd choose to post like that, but, to each his own.
I can never understand what the hell that guy does be talking about. I think he's pulling our chains half the time.

Why the hell do ya keep posting links to my posts that have nothing to do with what ya are even saying rickfox?

Originally Posted by The Guard View Post
I don’t understand the writers need to shoehorn an emotional reason for Ra’s Al Ghul excommunicating Bane into the script. Worse, it was an expository emotional reason and just falls flat. Bane being too violent for the League wasn’t a good enough reason to excommunicate him? The whole relationship between Bane. Ra’s and Talia was just kind of melodramatic and muddled, and as a result, the idea of Bane being kicked out by Ra's just has little to no impact on the film. It feels a bit extraneous and tacked on, especially since he’s leading them again anyway, with no exploration of how he felt about being excommunicated in the first place, and why he’d decide to lead them other than caring for Talia. It’s just really, really thin.

Agreed. It would have been better if they’d only said “We’re just going to finish what Ra’s started as an act of revenge, to send a message”. But it seems they were trying to cover up the relatively thin/rehash villain plot and justify the destruction of Gotham.
Quoted for truth.

It was just a thin rehash of the Begins plot only it was worse and a contradiction.

You are spot on about the emotional bull about Ra's kicking Bane out. It sounded better when we thought he was kicked out for being too brutal instead of all that soppy crap about loving Talia. Bane really was whipped.

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