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Old 11-19-2012, 02:01 PM   #681
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Default Re: Actors from original trilogy on First Class sequel with Days of Future Past

Originally Posted by Illuminata View Post
TLS was critically bashed by Film Critics and Fans that was spawned out of Berry demands, Rothman's micromanaging and Ratner's inability to craft the film.

I think the studio wants to get as far away from TLS and Origins:Wolverine as possible. It's the whole purpose behind XMFC, it's not a complete reboot but a softboot to steer the franchise back to where it was before. The studio is trying to cash in on Singerverse as much as possible.

I agree 100%.

That's why I believe the Core 5 will be mostly cameos with maybe 2 that will be expanded. This is why I also believe that Cyclops and Rogue seem to be prime candidates to take on the Logan & Kitty roles. It will give Cyclops the storyline to breathe and Rogue the opportunity to fix her characterization. Plus Marsden and Paquin are the youngest out of the Core 5.

So true, I know many actors were forced to come back to TLS when Singer departed. Why so much uproar was made post TLS by Paquin, Janssen and Romijn.

I think many of them WANT to come back to the franchise now that he's at the helms and Rothman is gone.

With the already overbloated cast with XMFC, I don't think we'll see many new characters. Cameos but if anything I think the Villain will perhaps be a new character. If we have the core 5 plus XMFC cast that's really huge by itself. It's already been touted that this IS a Magneto movie so even if we see Cyclops, Rogue, Professor X, Jean and Wolverine it will be limited. Timing constraints is what will kill the opportunity to see new characters expanded on.

He did but by the time he left Rogue was courageous (ie. Saved the X-Men by flying the Blackbird, saving Logan from Stryker) and not afraid of her powers (ie. using them on Pyro and attempting to drain Magneto) and officially joined The X-Men and Xavier's right hand gal by the end of X2. There was an evolution happening with her characterization which you could see where her character was headed.

TLS just crapped away all of those elements (especially joining the team), made her afraid of her powers again, removed her from the team and crapped over all of her courage that was in X1 and X2. Scaled back so far on her it was just an insult to Rogue fans who were excited to see her in action for X3. Paquin even said it herself during the X2 junket "It's great to see she's not a damsel in distress and doesn't need saving"

I love Storm but Halle has been given enough screentime and all of that screentime has only vindicated Singer's usage of Berry as Storm. Unlike Rogue, Storm's problem is with the actress and not the characterization. Halle is not convincing in the role so if Singer brought in Basset or someone else I would be so excited.

You're talking about 2 different mediums. It's not the same and let's be real, The Animated Series is rather embarrassing in terms of characterization. It's a cheesy over the top cartoon from the 90's which is fabulous for children but these movies aren't the same audience. The X-men has attracted more older teens and adults. You can't play by the same rules.

I don't think Gambit will go anywhere near this next film not so much because Bryan doesn't want him but because of the overbloated cast and time constraints for this film to be made.

I am a huge Jubilee fan but even I'm not deluded enough to believe she will be in this film.
I always thought Bryan singer viewed First Class as prequel to just his films.Now when he couldn't direct First Class that got muddled with Matthew Vaughn's both prequel and reboot approach.

If Fox Is willing to just let Singer remove Last Stand from contunity as well as Wolverine(which noone cares about keeping In COntunity) you can have Xavier,Wolverine,Rogue,Cyclops,Jean,Magneto,and Mystique In future.

The Time Traveler will likely be only one with subsabtal role In film.My Intsint Is bryan will do a 20-25 opening prologue In future and do rest of film In Past.
The rest will be expanded Cameos

There Is decent chance of Rogue as Time Traveler but I disagree that Bryan would give wolverine's role In future to Cyclops.I think he would want to have Wolverine and Rogue working together to call back to X-Men.That doesn't mean he wouldn't give something to Cyclops.

I disagree about there being a new Villain.The brotherhood will almost certinly be planning an assassination and this film will have Magneto go to full blown
Villain.If all surviving mutants from First Class return and the core of Singer's cast returns that's 14 characters plus target of assassination with possibilty
of return of Moira.Them and Sentinles are enough to service.

Bryan said on X2 audio commantary that Rogue and Iceman earned their uniforms at end of film.Ratner and Rothman pissed away all devolpment of rogue In Last Stand.

People need to understand Absorbing powers and energy Is Rogue's mutation.The rest she stole from Ms Marvel.A character Fox doesn't have rights to.

Films are different from TV Shows.With a season of TV even only half hour you have more time to give.

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