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Old 11-25-2012, 06:33 AM   #135
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Default Re: Bryan Singer: Why 'Superman Returns' Didn't Work

Originally Posted by DarKush View Post
What didn't work for me:

Theme: I thought the religious motifs, the Superman as Messiah stuff was a bit too on the nose.
Yeah I agree with that, I think Singer was too focused on that sort of stuff.

Originally Posted by DarKush View Post
Tone: The film was too somber, the color palette too dark or grim. Superman should be bright, uplifting, soaring.
Agree again, I thought it could have started out somber by as soon as Superman Returned the film should have brightened up.

Originally Posted by DarKush View Post
Direction/Casting: I think these two things are combined. While I don't think Routh was a horrible choice, I think he was given bad direction by Singer. And while I do think that Bosworth was a poor choice, it was Singer who picked her. Also Singer's idea to tie the films to the Reeve films instead of just updating Superman completely for a 21st century audience were misguided. He got swept up too much into his own nostalgia and assumed that the mass audience would be to. Perhaps they would have if we were watching the same actors in the Reeves films, but it made little sense to cast new actors for old roles. It was unfair to the new actors.
Yeah I don't think Routh was given enough to do, he had very little lines, he was definitely more like the Fleischer version of Superman. Bosworh was very miscast but I also think she was poorly written and directed too.

As for the nostalgia trip I think it could have worked but was executed poorly. What he should have done was made a film more like 1989's Batman where its not a straight up origin but looks back to it.

Originally Posted by DarKush View Post
Action: Or rather lack thereof. There wasn't enough action or moments for Superman to truly be super. The film didn't take advantage of all the cool special FX and CGI available to them that the Reeves films didn't have. The plane rescue was the most thrilling moment in the entire film and that was near the beginning. The only other superfeat was lifting the island laced with kryptonite which should've been impossible for Superman to do. It stretched credulity even for a Superman film.
Probably the biggest problem with the whole movie but i have to admit I don't think Singers very good as Epic action scenes, this film definitely needed a supervillain.

As I've stated before I think the plane sequence is the most thrilling moment I've ever seen in a film so thank god he got that right.

Agreed on the island whilst I loved it as a spectacle it was abit hard to swallow. Singer totally got Kryptonite wrong.

Originally Posted by DarKush View Post
Antagonists: I thought Spacey as Luthor was inspired but the direction left a lot to be desired. That being said, I wish that either Lex hadn't been in the film or that Singer had recognized that Superman has a lot of villains and threw one or more of them in the film along with the Luthor. Seeing Superman get beat down by Kal Penn and some no name dudes was sad.
Again I agree with the directing. I still think Lex should've been in the film as I feel he's as much a part of Superman's supporting cast as Lois or Jimmy. If Singer wanted Superman to come back to a changed world wouldn't it have made perfect sense for him to come back to a world where Lex owns most of Metropolis and see him as a saviour? definitely think Singer missed a trick there.

That beatdown was embarrassing.

Originally Posted by DarKush View Post
Plot: It was lame and made no sense. Who would want to live on a barren island laced with Kryptonite? And we never saw how Lex would stop other people from taking the island. If he had Kryptonian weapons why didn't he use them on Superman?
Again agreed, I wish they'd have had him at least use some of this advanced Alien technology he'd bragged about maybe then we could have had Superman smack down with somthing.

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Jason: I didn't care for Superman having a son. It was a misfire way for Singer to try to make Superman relevant but it came across like Kal-El being a deadbeat dad. Him stalking Lois didn't help either.

Yeah all that was awful

All in all Singer blew it really, I do enjoy the film but I can't watch it without thinking I'd change this and this throughout it. Singer should've stayed with X-Men infact I bet he wishes he had. But as stated above maybe this film was a blessing in disguise.


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