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Old 11-27-2012, 09:52 PM   #562
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Default Re: Thor 2 Dark World news, speculation and pictures possible Spoilers - Part 6

@ Jaqua99 Pym would be the character holding the entire multi-verse and this timeline together... That's the thing, Days of Future Past wants to alter the future... Pym wants to save it, and preserve the timeline from further manipulation... The smallest character quickly gets an upgrade, his own new comic line that focuses on him discovering dimensions/the negative zone more, and adds even more importance to Pym's character when he comes into it. After Avengers 2 people will want to know more about Pym. Pym is the one doing most of the dimensional/ time-travel eventually... He time travels into Avengers 2 to fix the timeline, because if he's not there Thanos/Ultron win that battle... His past and future are tied to Ultron. Shield made many mistakes, only "some of them recent".

His movie being set in the 80's and the present, with a past Pym and a present Lang, is directly tied into it when time-travel actually comes into it.

It's a way to get all the masters, Thanos, and Ultron in Avengers 2. Some of the villains become heroes... thanks to some nano-technology introduced in IM3. There would be no actual time-travel until Avengers 2, explaining why so many characters show up. There's a lot of pieces, but I think I've connected some of it. The masters will be in Avengers 2, but there will be a debate over using the technology that eventually becomes Ultron to enslave and control some of the captured masters. Some of my theories bring Leader (Samuel Sterns aka Mr. Blue) back into this as the Leader of the Masters of Evil in the initial attack. But as Wardell hinted it may really be about setting up Ultron as part of the masters, in a short amount of time. In a way he's leading them, but more like enslaving them and forcing the captured villains to do his bidding along with Tony's suits and the Hulklings and Thorlings. Mr. Blue creates a powerful weapon from the Asgardian DNA and Hulk's DNA... AIM winds up with Thor's DNA in IM3. An Empire against Thanos is being set up in the timeline because some characters also know what Thanos is up to. It was to be Mandarin and Leader's Empire but forces from beyond time hijack their Empire, attempting to set up the age of Ultron in the film-verse. Interfering with Thanos's plans temporarily and enraging him. It starts a theme of some of the villains willingly working with the Heroes against Thanos. In Avengers 3 a couple returning villains, and many of the heroes introduced across all the movies will show up to stop Thanos. Including Warlock from GoTG, Magus, and a future Guardian of the Galaxy who comes out of Knowwhere (the base in between space and time of the 31st century Guardians who monitor time and protect the universe). The pilot who leaves Earth in GoTG leaves Earth in 1982, sort of like Vance in the comics, but it's not Vance.

Much of GoTG's alternate future in the 31st century may come into this in an altered way, but the focus would be on the 21st century. This pilot leaving Earth in 1982 affects everything.
Dates and events are occurring out of sequence, later in time, things are changed, no martians only masters, mutant stuff left out or probably changed entirely. But some of what Ultron and Thanos are doing affects the 31st century. Shield being involved with sending this astronaut into space connects everything together. When they did that they stepped into the future, it leads to a path where the GoTG are formed. Because of their present existence, the 31st century Guardians exist and are very worried about this timeline. They only contact one of the 21st century Guardians at first.

"Even the 31st Century needs heroes, and the call has been answered by the Guardians of the Galaxy, a team of superhuman and extraterrestrial adventurers dedicated to the safeguarding of the Milky Way Galaxy from any force that threatens the security or liberty of its various people. The alternate future of the Guardians began with many changes from Earth-616 starting in 1982. When Earth's environment collapsed, an American astronaut, Vance Astrovik (Vance Astro), embarked upon the first manned space flight to another star system. Also, in the 90's, Bionic Wars ignited among the growing cybernetic population of Earth, culminating in a nuclear attack on western Canada. In 1995, the Confederation of Nations was established, uniting mankind in a global society. However, anti-mutant prejudice remained strong, prompting Earth’s mutants to relocate to Jupiter’s moon of Europa.
The most significant moment occurred in 2001, when Martians invaded Earth, decimating and enslaving humanity. For years, the Martians ruled Earth, before mysteriously abandoning the planet in 2075. Afterwards, Earth was ruled by “Techno-Barons” in various warring city-states. By 2525, the last of these Barons were dethroned, enabling Earth to create a World Federation by 2553. Over the course of the next century, Earth colonized the other planets of the solar system, genetically engineering each specific populace to withstand the environment of each colony, many of which were specialized outposts-- Pluto became Earth’s manufacturing colony, Mercury was a mining colony, Jupiter housed scientific expeditions, etc. Earth began a new golden age of scientific and social advancement."

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A certain version of a certain explosion may occur in IM3, where tapping into an energy source was the goal. Radioactive Man is there but not a villain, someone else wandered into the blast site. An unexpected character could cameo in CA2 who wants to help Shield make AIM/Zemo pay a Penance. Then gets imprisoned for his form of justice. His powers in CA2 lead to the brief creation and then disappearance of Wonderman... This is all setting up a slightly altered form of the Vision and I also believe Miss Marvel will play a role eventually. One of the Vision's powers:

Density Control: The Vision's body has been saturated with special cybernetically activated cells which are capable of interfacing with some unknown dimension with which he can shunt or accrue particles of mass. Thus the Vision is able to control his density and solidity. By shunting a non-critical portion of his body's molecules away from him, he can become a weightless, transparent, intangible wraith, unable to be touched by solid matter. By accruing extradimensional mass and fortifying his body with it, he can make his body extremely hard and durable to the point that missiles will not harm him. Vision/Ultron could be the true Villain of much of Avengers 2...The Vision and Ultron are the wildcards that change the future for Thanos. Vision's superhuman computer mind allows him to access the timeline viewer device in a way that no other character can, and allows him to form an accurate Vision of the future. He understands that he has to rebel against Ultron and the Masters and join the Avengers. Janet and Pym arrive just as suddenly as Ultron and Vision and fill us in on some of what's happening, how Ultron has skipped across time.
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Some of what Bendis is saying about the single biggest event in the history of Marvel is true, and may be represented on film because of how that affects the entire marvel universe/multi-verse... Not a direct copy of what Bendis is planning but tied into the Age of Ultron stuff that's comes out in March, because elements will show up on film, mixed with 616 and Ultimates influences. "A total of six people in the company know the secret at the end of Age of Ultron." I'm definitely not one of those people, but I think those people may actually like what Bendis has planned for Ultron. A single event constrained to itself, that's in the vein of IG, but allows for all the other big events to occur because it exploits them and speeds them all along...

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