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Old 11-30-2012, 06:32 PM   #34
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Default Re: A theory about an alternate TDKR with the Joker

Originally Posted by The Joker View Post
But why? He has a history with them. They trusted him to do the job they gave him to do. Why was it so bad to see him working with them again?
He has a history of being a pawn in a plan that the League of Shadows never told him about as Crane only believed they were going to hold the city hostage. Wouldn't call that a great history, but even would Bane, or even Talia, know that Dr. Crane used to work with Ra's?

So your only problem with it is in relation to the Joker? Did it ever occur to you that one of two scenarios could have happened;

1. It's 8 years later. Crane could have served his time and have been released
2. Bane had him specifically released because of his previous affiliation with the LOS
Neither of those occurred since 2 wasn't even mentioned or hinted to even make sense of it all and 1 could lead to questioning about how the gas that Crane inhaled was "resolved". Perhaps Carmine Falcone, over time, could have become better as well?

Bane was letting everyone who wasn't rich or a Cop run wild on the streets. The Blackgate inmates were just part of the so called victims of the corrupt.

If he had never learned of the Dent lie, they would have stayed put in prison. Their release was never crucial to taking over Gotham. The bomb threat was what gave Bane his power to own Gotham. Not the inmates or his LOS men.
I also believe the inmates would have stayed in Blackgate prison as well, but he DID give the inmates guns when they walked out and they DID end up helping out the LoS throughout those five months wether it was escorting people out of the kangaroo court into the river of ice or targeting cops(as the man who Christopher Judge played had regular criminals that didn't wear the red scarfs with him when they met with Blake). So in the end, the inmates did play a pivotal role in "taking over" the city.

Yes, Joker is the most talked about element in it, but I equate it to Hannibal Lecter who is the most talked about character in The Silence of the Lambs, but the movie has a lot more going for it than Lecter's 20 minutes of screen time.

Lecter is like the Joker, the large than life scenery chewing Oscar winning villain of the piece.
And this is what I am referring to. With Joker being the major talk of TDK, don't you think it would have been the same with TDKR even? Ledger's Joker was simply a fascinating character and villain and would've been the "talk of the town" even as a minor villain in TDKR.

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