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Old 12-06-2012, 12:22 AM   #471
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Default Re: The Official Rate/Review Thread for TDKR (TAG SPOILERS!!!) - Part 3

Originally Posted by Aesculapius View Post
The movie was pretty good, but now that it has been months since I have seen the movie and my view isn't skewed by hype, I can say I lost interest in seeing any more Nolan films after this one, so grats WB?

This movie was cut all wrong. If nothing else it at least needed a better introduction to Bane. I mean when Batman immediately recognizes bane as a crazy threat without really knowing anything about him made no sense at all. They tried to lampshade this when Alfred points out what a complete mess he made, but it really didn't work for me and that is when my suspended disbelief broke so early in the movie. I think that is the most glaring flaw I saw in the movie. Batman loosing his cool just because a guy with a mask showed up seemed... uncharacteristic to say the least.

Also they didn't toy with the morally grey like they did the previous two movies. In the first two the villains stood for something. Ra's was about bringing judgement to the wicked with brutality and rebooting society. A relatable motive that crosses lines most sane people would not. Made him a compelling villain. The Joker also was also a character that struck a chord with the rebellious type. As we all know he represented the idea that life is a joke, and who hasn't wondered that at some point or another? In both, Batman not only overcame the physical threats, but battled these ideologies. In TDKR we have none of that. Bane didn't really stand for anything and Talia was just the things her father stood for plus revenge. I mean yeah, the movie told us that he was a false revolutionary who in the end couldn't be trusted, but it wasn't really shown much. In the end, it only felt like Batman overcame same old same old and some physical challenges. there was no deeper feel to the movie that made the other two movies so great. I think that is what bugs me most.

That said, the movie wasn't bad. In the end it was a good action move. It's just disappointing compared to the other two. If I ever want to watch the movies I'll more likely go for Batman Begins or TDK. I'm not even sure I'm going to buy a copy of TDKR.
Bruce did know what a threat Bane was. He found out his background with the League and saw him fight on camera and saw how good he was. He knew he was going to have to step it up. "I'll fight harder. I always have." But of course Bruce thinks he can beat Bane because Bruce has never been beaten. And one more quote, "If this man is everything you say he is, then this city needs me." That sounds like a guy who knows it's serious.

Originally Posted by Anno_Domini View Post
But it took a canon missile shot right into the chest to stop this unstoppable machine, who was still human.
Yea, isn't it a compliment to what a force he is when it takes a CANON to stop him? lol

Originally Posted by Dark Knight View Post
Meh. Only to fanboys who knew Tate was Talia about 8 months before the film was released.

From what I gather, the general movie going audience absolutely loved the reveal and the ending of the film.

I was just in a discussion about the ending with a bunch of family and friends (I have a ton of family and friends who all get together over the Holidays) on Thanksgiving and the reaction to the twist ending was very positive.

Now about 95% of this group are not comic genre fanboys and do not follow the Batman mythos like I do. They all loved the ending and I told them that I knew who Talia from the comics and I kinda knew she would be in this film about 4 months before production started.

One of my cousins said, " you knew who Talia was beforehand cause you follow the comics"?

Then him and a couple of others in the group, said that was a sweet or good way for Nolan to tie everything together with that twist ending.

It's all subjective fellas.
Every single one of my friends, family, and people I know in person has said they really like it. Literally the only place I hear people complain and say they didn't like it is people on forums and on youtube. And of the 4 times I've seen it in theaters everybody was leaving hyped and with a smile on their face from what I could see.

Originally Posted by The Joker View Post
I wouldn't say it was all unsuccessful. When the siege kicks off is really great. Bane's speech outside Blackgate was good, too. But it didn't match the TDK scale in terms of excitement and tension for me.
Oddly enough, I thought the exact opposite thing about TDK. The last bit of that movie I was thinking, "This is long and should have been over already." With the TDKR I was on the edge of my chair at the end. In TDK the only spots I felt that were unpredictable and let me on the edge of my seat were pretty much the early scenes with the Joker(not the last one). They were creepy as hell. The whole swat team in the building/Ferries/Harvey Dent didn't do much for me. When Bane and Batman started to fight the second time, and Bane throws a combination to start off the fight knocking Batman back and forth violently, I remember thinking, "He's going to get f***ed up." I remember being so, "there," or "present" during the last act. When Batman starts to gain the advantage in the second fight and kicks Bane through the glass door I got such a huge adrenaline spike. I probably would have stood up if I wasn't in public. lol

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