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Old 12-07-2012, 10:40 AM   #473
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Default Re: In hindsight what changes would you do

Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
Thank you, thank you.

Originally Posted by TheDevilIsMe View Post
I loved the film - but as time went on I had a few complaints. Of what I'd'd be;

-The 8 year absence. I feel it betrays the ending of the last film, felt it was not needed and I would love to have Batman be a 10 year force by this film. I'd make it so Bruce got lost in his monster after Rachel's death, becoming obsessed with being Batman.
-Make Bane's plan a bit better - plenty here have explained how they'd do that so I won't bother to reiterate.
-Show the citizen's perspective on things. Give it a more human side.
-Give Batman/Bane a better final fight and give Bane a proper death.
-Make Selina's role more needed. Develop her relationship with Batman more.

I think the film had too much story to tell for one film only. Anyone else feel this way?
Post winner right here. All of that should have been done.

Originally Posted by GregComicFan View Post
My only gripe about Nolan's Batman trilogy was that it... was a should have been four films (quadrilogy???)...

I have watched Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, and The Dark Knight Rises back-to-back (one film each night) on two separate occassions now, and both times I had the same opinion:

At the end of The Dark Knight, Batman rises off as a bada** ... citizens think he's a villain, the cops are after him, but Gordon knows the truth and is going to cover his tracks... THIS SETS UP A GREAT SETTING FOR A THIRD MOVIE... which we never get...

-We never see GCPD actively hunting down/investigating Batman/Bruce.
-We never get to see Commissioner Gordon leading the task force to take down Batman; meanwhile, Gordon is assisting Batman to NOT be caught.
-We never see citizen's reactions to "Batman as a villain" and what criminals thought of it
-I don't buy that no other members of the Rogue's gallery pop up.

The 8-year-gap doesn't ring true for me. I understand that Nolan wanted to show Batman retired due to 1) Rachel's death 2) Dent's death fixed crime, etc. etc. etc. But TDKR feels disjointed from TDK. The ending of TDK doesn't match up with where we find things start in TDKR.

It feels like there's a third film in-between TDK and TDKR that we never saw. That third film would show Gordon covering for Batman as Batman is hunted by GCPD; that third film would give an origin to Selina/Catwoman (I think she needed to be developed more); that third film would include another Rogue's gallery member (I think the Riddler as an FBI agent tracking Batman would make complete sense); that third film would show Batman becoming more and more obsessed with being Batman and NOT Bruce Wayne due to his depression and Rachel's death...

It all leads to the third film's villains (Riddler) defeat due to Batman's intellect, Batman retires, Miranda is introduced due to the clean energy project, GCPD fails to capture Batman due to Gordon's interference, Harvey Dent Act is passed, Selina becomes Catwoman, and then...

Bam! The Dark Knight Rises begins...

In hindsight, I just don't buy that NOTHING happened in Gotham in-between TDK and TDKR.
Hell to the yeah. Rises totally feels off from TDK's ending.

Originally Posted by BatmanBeyond View Post
And then you come along, and make an equally ignorant remark.
Truth is not ignorance. Go look through his post history for the evidence. Undeniable.

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