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Originally Posted by BatLobsterRises
Good points about apathy, seeing as Bruce wanting to "shake people out of apathy" (there's that plane scene again  ). Although I do dig the ferries scene.
But yeah, I think robbing TDK of it's one moment of optimisim would have been a fatal error. Batman deserved the vindication there, and the audience deserved some relief.
I don't see Talia and Bane being the types of people who are waiting around on the results of a pyschopath's "social experiment" to adjust their own assessment of Gotham. They're very absolute and set in their ways, just like Ra's was. Talia's line about " innocent" being a strong word to throw around Gotham still had enough resonance, considering the events of TDKR.
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Very much so, especially since none of the lower class were forced to do anything. Bane simply presented them with the choice. You reap what you sow and all that.