Originally Posted by BatLobsterRises
Good points about apathy, seeing as Bruce wanting to "shake people out of apathy" (there's that plane scene again
). Although I do dig the ferries scene.
But yeah, I think robbing TDK of it's one moment of optimisim would have been a fatal error. Batman deserved the vindication there, and the audience deserved some relief.
I don't see Talia and Bane being the types of people who are waiting around on the results of a pyschopath's "social experiment" to adjust their own assessment of Gotham. They're very absolute and set in their ways, just like Ra's was. Talia's line about "innocent" being a strong word to throw around Gotham still had enough resonance, considering the events of TDKR
Very much so, especially since none of the lower class were forced to do anything. Bane simply presented them with the choice. You reap what you sow and all that.