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Old 12-10-2012, 06:53 PM   #37
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Default Re: Does Bane being a PURELY physical threat hamper him as a villain?

Originally Posted by BatmanBeyond View Post
IMO, Heath's Joker doesn't hint as clearly towards a single day making him the way he is like in The Killing Joke. Although I do admit it's possible.
I think when he says "Do you want to know how I got these scars?" he's saying "Do you want to know how I became the Joker?". Why else would he adopt a clown look and say "Now I see the funny side. Now I'm always smiling". His scars are the big perma smile he's always wearing as a product of something terrible that happened to him.

You're dead right, the multiple stories was a nod to The Killing Joke. Heath Ledger himself said TKJ was handed to him to read as part of his prep for the role;

The Killing Joke is the one that was handed to me. It's really good. So I think [the film] is obviously going to be a bit [about] the beginning of the Joker. I guess [The Killing Joke] explains a little bit of where he's from, but not too much. From what I've gathered, there isn't a lot of information about the Joker and it's kind of left that way."

Most of Joker's scheme in TDK is a love letter to Joker's twisted experiment on Jim Gordon in TKJ.

Batman essentially says the same thing to Joker when the ferries don't blow up; "What were you trying to prove, that deep down everyone's as ugly as you? You're alone". You could consider Harvey Dent the Jim Gordon of the story in terms of Joker trying to prove someone really good can be broken, only in TDK's case Joker succeeded, whereas in TKJ he failed to break Gordon.

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