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Old 12-18-2012, 01:07 PM   #49
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Default Re: What people DIDN'T like from The Avenger ........Spoilers - Part 2

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So, because the only one who opposed Captain America was Tony, and everyone followed suit, that doesn't make him a leader?
It makes it a pretty poor character arc.

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Yes, Tony is capable, but he haven't had a chance to prove himself. He would rather find a better solution "I think I'll just cut the wire." The battle of quips on the helicarrier must have stung Tony more than Steve. Steve has heard it before, it doesn't affect him. Tony haven't, and at the end he proves himself, which is great.
He was wrong. He said Tony wasn't a hero, and he meant it in a disparaging way.

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Also there are many other moments. He stands up against Loki,
And fails to back it up, getting so thoroughly beaten, and in the end needs Iron Man's help.

Old German dude also stood up to Loki. As does Tony in the end.

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You answered yourself that one.
You highlighted the wrong portion.

You can listen to other people without being a good leader.

Not everyone who listens to other people is a leader.

At the end of Iron Man 1, Pepper listens to what Tony has to say about the tech stuff. Does that mean Pepper should lead the Avengers?


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