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Originally Posted by Omegabat
Vader was Emperors lackey,and that does not make you a good or bad villain otherwise Sinestro,Storm Shadow,Deathstroke and Mr Sinister would be the worst villains ever.
As for Joker and Lecter,honestly I dont see what's so special about Lecter.Joker was one of the greatest villains even before Ledger,WTH was Lecter before Hopkins?
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There are many villains that stand out more than the Joker. His popularity has just risen in pop culture over the years.
As per Lecter, a little research and film know how goes a long way here. Lecter was a highly regarded villain long before Hopkins. Lecter's incarnation in the book(those things with pages and words) was something that really stood out and terrified readers. His popularity started to rise a little more with his first film appearance which was actually Manhunter, and he was portrayed by Brian Cox. Hopkins made the role famous, not just because He's a great actor, but because general audiences tend not to remember Manhunter.