Originally Posted by Anno_Domini
Which again, would take away the ideal that one must climb without the rope or any rope and let fear find him.
You seem to be thinking of ideas that would take away all thematic elements there, bud.
Nolan's Visionary "realism" was really NOT realism, and was rather just giving the film a serious tone, and tossing out the Sci-Fi elements.
The point being its rediculous when people say one cannot have those elements in a Batman movie, or it won't be dark/serious enough because somehow Science fiction always has to mean camp, but only if it's Batman.
My point is that it is impossible to make a movie, that as Nolan and his fans who defend every nugget he pinches out as "completely realistic in every single sense and way". - which it is not, nor is even possible.
Therefor, our next go round, can we have out Batman Sci-Fi elements back?