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Old 01-05-2013, 06:12 PM   #71
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Default Re: How Long Was Bruce Wayne Actually Batman in this Trilogy?

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Originally Posted by BlueLightning View Post
My father said the same thing, I had an argument with him after the release of the film. But this wasn't sequel bait. It was a thematic element, as I explained before. Even poor Joseph Gordon Levitt had the same problem. Check this interview:

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So you see my point of the ending being far more "balloon blowing" than the possibility of interim cases between The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises?


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Well let's count the villians then. Ra's al Ghul, The Scarecrow, The Joker, Two-Face. Add perhaps Victor Zsaz and the mob, counting characters from the comics there is Carmine Falcone, Salvatore Maroni. Count also the villians for the third film, Bane, Catwoman and Talia. There you go. Five comic book criminal before Rises, seven if you count the mob, and ten overall. Not to shabby for three films.
I wouldn't count Zsasz as a villain, and I don't count the mobsters as villains. Criminals, but not villains.

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As I said before, hinting towards other adversaries in the interim between TDK and Rises wouldn't add much to the overall story.
To you, maybe not. To me it adds more possibility to a fictional world I loved.

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Nyssa doesn't have the starpower that Talia has. You see that the circumstances they are met on comics and the films are different, with different outcomes. I would still say Talia counts as a villian, she plays the role in a similar fashion as Catwoman in the comics, being sometimes the romantic interest, sometimes the adversary, or both.
Scarecrow and Ra's didn't have star power before Batman Begins. Though I see your point.


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Funny thing, some time ago i was reading a Batman comic book, think it was Hush, and in the story he got really injured with a cracked skull and several broken bones, in the story, a few weeks later he's back into action and that made me think "Wait, this happens to Bruce a lot, right? Like, he gets badly injured constantly..." and realized how ridiculous is for a man with no supernatural powers to keep healing from this things like nothing happened and remain on top of "human potential"; I mean, boxers get permanently damaged for things that Bats faces in a nightly basis, yet, he keeps goin like it's nothing.

That's something that I loved about this version of the character; his humanity, how he got hurt really bad and how that leaves scars and consequences (sp?), yet, this extraordinary man, works through pain, sucks it up and keeps on fighting, never giving up, and you can tell that he's hurt, he's in pain while doing it.

I've read a lot of people here saying how much superior comics/TAS Batman is to Nolan's, and I'm sorry, I just don't see it (don't get me wrong, Batman is my favorite fictional character ever since I was a little kid); when comparing the Nolan movies to, say, Mask of the Phantasm (which I saw a couple of days ago), I found Bale's Bats to be much more capable, scarier, incredibly more intimidating, all around much more badass, this unstoppable force of nature; and I know that a lot of people are hung out on "Batgod" from the comics, yet somehow, overlook all the little moments during the trilogy that show us how smart and the gifted detective that he actually is.

These and many other reasons make Nolan and Bale's Batman my favorite version of the character, above both comics and animated shows.

Polux

Great post, and I agree to an extent. But keep in mind two things:

1) It's easier to show strain, pain and anguish on film, through motion and physical acting

and 2) Hush sucks . To be fair, some writers keep Batman/Robin injured over what would be months comic time.

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