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Old 01-13-2013, 05:16 PM   #111
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Default Re: Why did the League of Shadows want to destroy a peaceful city?

Originally Posted by BatLobsterRises View Post
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I agree that the League could influence any city into being deemed fit for annihilation. However, Gotham is special in that it is said to be "the world's greatest city" in this trilogy, once by Ra's himself. I've said this a lot before, but I think they saw Gotham as the symbolic poster child for Western civilization and decadence. A modern day Roman Empire (which we learn, they also attacked). I feel the aim of the League, both in the comics and films is to essentially "reboot" society. In the comics, Ra's often wants to wipe out most of the world's population. In the films, it seems that he focused on fostering Gotham's destruction from within as something to jumpstart the rest of the world into moving towards a more balanced utopia. Others have said that I am just exercising in conjecture and that Ra's merely wanted to take down a corrupt city and that in and of itself was the point. But lines like, "Tomorrow the world will watch in horror as its greatest city destroys itself. The movement back to harmony will be unstoppable this time" seem to strongly suggest some kind of global outlook on the situation.

But yeah, overall whether one takes this as conjecture or valid insight, I am grateful that the movies provide a lot of substantial ideas to chew on, even if they're not all profusely elaborated on. A lot of the League's ideals are really a dark mirror of Batman's. They're both, in theory, trying to create a better world. Both see themselves above the law, enforcing their will upon society in a God-like way. The dichotomy of Batman and the LOS shows just how slippery the line between good and evil can be.
Good points, as always.

The League's idea is to send out a powerful message to the rest of the world through Gotham's destruction. That's why Ra's calling it 'the world's greatest city' is important. And that's why Bane's ruse of handing the trigger to the bomb to an ordinary citizen made a lot of sense. Because to the rest of the world it would've appeared that an ordinary citizen 'took control of his city' and blew it up, even though it would've been a member of the League that would've actually pulled the trigger. Again, this is a mirror to the Joker's social experiment back in TDK (but on a much larger scale) and I think it's surprising, but also interesting how certain parts of their philosophies resemble each other.

This is why I also think that Bane's revolution wasn't just a ruse, I mean the LoS could've just directly destroyed Gotham like Ra's tried back in BB. It's clear to me that the revolution idea was Bane's, perhaps Talia's as well as a result of their upbringing in the pit. Postponing the actual destruction of the city was also a means to make Bruce suffer, but that idea has Talia written all over it.

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