Originally Posted by cherokeesam
Fair enough; but who do *you* think, realistically, would be added to the Avengers 2 roster then, if any? I think the fact that Feige officially stated that Ant-Man is the first Phase III film now severely rules out a ton of Pym-mythos Avengers joining in this phase (Ant-Man, Giant-Man, Wasp, Vision, Jocasta); and I'm sure you're even more reluctant to add War Machine to the roster than you are Falcon. Carol Danvers doesn't seem to be on Marvel's movie radar at all yet; and Black Panther is a Phase III addition, at the earliest.
Whedon has already gone on record as saying that he wants a female addition to Avengers. I think Ms. Marvel is the most likely candidate, and the S.H.I.E.L.D. show is the perfect way to introduce her. Since he has creative input, he can handle weaving her into the overall Avengers arc exactly how he wants to.
Think about it: the Mar-Vell/Danvers storyline is a natural fit for something like the S.H.I.E.L.D. series. They said it will reference Marvel heroes, but maybe not feature them, so it's not outside the realm of possibility that they could be investigating some of the threats Fury alluded to in Avengers, and one of those threats could be the Kree. Mar-Vell could be a plant in S.H.I.E.L.D., he interacts with Danvers...stuff happens...and whammo! Ms. Marvel is available for A2.
Originally Posted by Dark Raven
But who is to say that movie Falcon will be a second stringer. Are movie Black Widow and Hawkeye such A-listers? They certainly aren't really A-listers in the comics on the level of Iron Man, Cap, Thor and Hulk, yet they are in the movie. Since Anthony Mackie is playing Falcon in Cap 2, what makes him really any different to BW appearing in Iron Man 2, or Hawkeye's small cameo in Thor? As far as the general audience will perceive him, he could easily be just as big a name as those 2.
Black Widow and Hawkeye are not sidekicks. MCU War Machine and Falcon are pretty much the definition of one.
Planting Falcon in A2 now is to assume a huge popularity bump for that character, and they don't have a clue how much/little fans will like Mackie's performance. Seems like a risk that Marvel doesn't usually take. Hawkeye and Black Widow have more connection to the Avengers stories than War Machine and Falcon. They all have connections, of course, but BW and Hawkeye's are stronger. I don't really see it as the same thing.