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My Visions for the Marvel Movie Universe
My Visions for the Marvel Movie Universe
On Comicvine.com I posted a huge blog with a giant overview of my many ideas I have had over the years since the Avengers came out as to what to do with the Marvel movie universe. I wanted to post all my ideas on this site as well. To get them out there. Here they are.
(My blog on Comicvine.com has much more detail including a visual example of my staggered and rotating roster idea and Ant Man's and Captain Marvel's and Spider-Woman's costume ideas.)
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This whole blog is a compilation of my various Marvel movie universe ideas and designs I have come up with over the many years since the Avengers film was finally put out and made one huge movie universe. I hope you like them.
I want Ant Man to introduce Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne, and have Bill Foster and Scott Lang working in his lab for him. Then I want Hank and Janet, who would be Ant Man and Wasp, to join the Avengers and Hank becomes Giant Man. Then in a solo/spin off type movie, Scott Lang becomes Ant Man. Later down the line, when Hank becomes Yellow Jacket, Bill Foster becomes the new Giant Man. I think Bill Foster and Scott Lang rounding out the cast as Pym's co-workers and friends is a must. I also like the idea of seeing Ant Man's friends, Janet, Bill, and Scott, being sort of his team and tech support for him being Ant Man, not just his friends who don't know. But also this would allow them to transition into taking over for him easier and Janet becomes Wasp, Scott becomes Ant Man, and Bill becomes Giant Man, showing that all their lives are effected by Hank Pym's being Ant Man/Giant Man/ Yellow Jacket. Sort of like how no one can not be effected, or untouched, by their friends being superheroes. In the other thread someone suggeested no Ant Man sequel. But How about Ant Man 1 being hank Pym (who joins the Avengers as Giant Man/Ant Man) while the sequel (Ant Man 2) could be Scott Lang. It would sort of be a transition film. hank leaves being Ant Man to join the Avengers while Scott takes up the mantel to save his daughter. Bill Foster could be in both Avengers with Hank and co star in Ant Man with Scott Lang. So, to over explain:
Ant Man 1: Hank Pym and Janet become the Ant Man and the Wasp, agents of SHIELD.
Avengers (whatever): Hank and Janet join the Avengers. Janet is the Wasp while Hank introduces his new inventions and powers as Giant Man. Because he felt like he had to step things up for the Avneger big leagues. Bill Foster and Scott Lang make cameos.
Ant Man 2: Hank and Janet leave to join the Avengers. While joining the Avengers Hank becomes Giant Man and leaves being Ant Man behind. Scott Lang's daughter is kidnapped and he and Bill Foster try to get her back. Lang uses Pym's Ant Man suit and becomes the new Ant Man with Bill Foster co-starring. Later down the line Foster can take over for Pym as Giant Man, probably after the actor playing Pym leaves the cast of Avengers and Ant Man.
The whole time Hank, since the 1st film, has been working on an AI he started years ago with Tony Stark (leading to Jarvis) and in an Avengers film he finally finishes it (Ultron). I want Pym to have some serious mental illness like in the comics. He could have schizophrenia or something. During a breakdown he uses his own brain patterns to finish Ultron. Ultron becomes the living embodiment of all of Pym's dark thoughts, hatreds to his team and wife, and everything Pym has tried to hide or ignore. Then Ultron creates the Vision, a sort of grandfather failing his son, but can save the grandson type thing. Vision joins Pym and the Avengers in defeating Ultron. The way I see it is that Pym should be this super genius who isn't as big and powerful in the science world as Stark because he gets in his own way. But I think maybe he and Stark together built Jarvis. And together they worked on SHIELD tech. And Tony quite the weapons game but Pym didn't. He has been working with SHIELD this whole time. And all these many years since Jarvis Pym has been trying to perfect AI in his spare time. He creates his Pym Particles, his helmet that talks to ants, and Wasp's powers, all the while still working on the AI project. He ends up joining the Avengers and is still working on it (they don't have to show him working on it all the time, just reveal he has) and then in an Avengers movie he finally does it. Using his own brain patters, and in a fevered angry breakdown Pym finished Ultron. But Ultron's tech is based on the Jarvis tech Pym and Stark built together. That way Pym is still Ultron's father, Ultron is still the son Pym failed, but we also get Stark's involvement. And maybe they can slip in something about the Cosmic Cube/Arc reactor connection. How Stark's arc reactor/Repulsar Rays are based off of the cosmic cube Stark's father found in Cap 1, and which came from Thor 1. Show a subtle connection. Still, the tech was invented by Stark and Pym, but Pym perfected it, and used his own brain patterns as a blueprint for Ultron's mind. Which gives Ultron a stronger connection to Pym. And makes Ultron Pym's fault. I would love, but am not expecting it, to have Wonder Man join the team and be used for the brain patterns on the Vision, making them like brothers. So then you have Hank and Janet, their "son" Ultron, Ultron's "son" Vision, and Vision's "brother" Wonder Man.
Wasp's Stingers: since they will be in the same universe as Black Widow and the other Avengers, they could make Wasp's "Stingers." It could be revealed that Black Widow's "Stingers" were invented by SHIELD scientist Hank Pym, and so Janet uses them as weapons for being Wasp. It would make the worlds connected and smaller in that they don't have two different inventions that don't exist.
Revolving and Rotating Staggered Casting: I would also like to see them not just recast Captain America and Thor and Iron Man, even though they plan to do that with Iron Man for his own movie, I would like to see other Avengers come in when the original actor's contracts are up. So in Avengers 2 (for example) bring in Pym and Janet. Then after Avengers 3 Chris Evans, Scarlett Johansson, and the rest, leave because their contracts are up and they don't want to play those characters anymore. So new Avengers are brought in, She-Hulk becomes an Avenger. Falcon becomes an Avenger, Wonder Man becomes an Avenger, Vision becomes an Avenger, Carol as Captain Marvel becomes an Avenger.
Then when the actors who play Hank and Janet leave fill their empty slots with two new actors playing two new Avengers. Like maybe Hercules.
And again, once those actor's contracts are up and they leave fill the empty spots with more Avengers. Bring in Namor, Black Panther, and so on.
Continue to stagger and rotate the cast (if the actor wants to leave because their contract is up). Like Law and Order, a cop would leave, be replaced but you still had the two lawyers and the chief and the other cop, but then later the DA would leave and maybe a lawyer would leave, but you still had the rest of the cast. People would leave and new people would come in, but not all at once.
Eventually the film could have Bucky as Captain America, once Evans leaves even, and Thunderstrike as the new Thor (maybe or not), War Machine in place of Iron Man, She-Hulk instead of Hulk, Swordsman in place of Hawkeye, the blond Black Widow in place of Natasha, etc.
She-Hulk: I say when Mark Ruffolo's (spelling?) contract is up and he no longer wants to play Hulk, why not just have his cousin come in to join the Avengers? Go back and reveal her origin in a flashback (that she was hit by a car and had to get a transfusion from Bruce) and there you go. No need to recast him and no need to make a whole movie about her origin. I thought the origin out of the way would leave more time to focus on her character and her being an important part of the Avengers. Sometimes, because of origins, the character can take forever to even get to the big screen. A character like She-Hulk, being a spin off of the Hulk, may not get her own film any time soon. But I think people are familiar enough with the Hulk that the movies can start doing things like introduce She-Hulk, or bring in the idea of the Gray Hulk or the Smart Hulk. Just trying to speed up the process. And I agree. Best way to go is the Dr. Manhattan way.
I would love if the Fantastic Four became part of the Marve movie Universe. So that we could have a scene where Reed, Tony, Hank, and Banner, are all talking about science.
I'd like the MMU to at least be able to have mutants in their movies, like Scarlet Witch and Beast, so they can become Avengers.
And I would like She-Hulk and Namor and Carol Danvers and other Avengers to be brought into the films too, it would be fun.
Here is a quick visual to show how the rotation, staggering, of the casting can go. Usually they are contracted for 3 films, or 3 solo films and 3 Avenger films (and/or some cameos).
I need to clarify. That the characters brought in, to fill the roster, would most likely have had their own solo films. For example Carol Danvers in the Captain Marvel film, and then she becomes an Avenger. So the audience already knows her like they knew Captain America before he was an Avenger. Same with Edgar Writes Ant Man, he will become an Avenger too but by then people will know of him from his own film. So that when the other cast, like Captain America, leave and are replaced by other Avengers like Captain Marvel or Ant Man the audience will know the people replacing them and it wont be random strangers. So the films will not only have a staggered cast, somewhat, but also have the solo films to help establish these characters and familiarize them with the public.
So while Captain America and the rest are in Avengers 2, we get a solo Ant Man movie, and Falcon in Captain America 2. And maybe while we are getting Avengers 3 (with Ant Man and Falcon now in it) we are getting a solo Carol Danvers/Captain Marvel film. And like with the others there are hints and easter eggs to establish they are all in the same universe, and when they are finally brought into the Avengers the fans are excited.
Now, these aren't the exact rosters I would use (not exactly) but rather random characters I picked. I do think that up till Avengers 3 the original cast will stick around because of contracts. And that after that most likely they will leave. I do think that around Avengers 2 or 3 Ant Man as the Wasp should join and stick around a movie or two after the original cast left. But after that I sort of picked random characters. I think that the Vision should show up as soon as possible, in the Ultron story, before the actors playing Pym and Janet leave when their contracts are up. I do think Falcon will join the Avengers as well, maybe even in Avengers 2 since he will be in Captain America 2 along with the Winter Soldier and Sharon Carter. The other characters are names I picked at random. sort of. to elaborate and demonstrate my idea of the rotating and staggered roster.
Last edited by Artistsean; 02-18-2013 at 04:16 AM.