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Old 02-24-2013, 07:19 AM   #106
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Default Re: Thor 2 Dark World news, speculation and pictures possible Spoilers - Part

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Originally Posted by cherokeesam View Post
"You've got a mean swing, Point Break."

I think Tony was probably initially dubious about Thor being an alien at all, and was just trying in his head to come up with different explanations; like maybe Thor was a mutant or super who just thought/pretended he was an ancient god from a distant world. But after fighting the Chitauri firsthand and zapping up to space and all, he probably had to quickly reassess.
Hulk and Abom are the only "mutant" type creatures on MCU earth, so it's not like Tony has come across lots of people with powers.

It's just wierd that Tony meets a guy who can fly, summon lightning, crush part of his armor, and not be astounded.

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Originally Posted by Incredible Hans View Post
So you mean all the legends (or most of them) aren't true? Interesting idea.

But in the real world, all people familiar with Norse mythology know that Loki is of frost giant heritage. Do all people on earth in the MCU know that? And if they do, why is Loki's heritage common knowledge on earth but a secret in Asgard (only Odin and Frigga knew it before Loki found out).

So Kenneth Branagh created some problems with his version of Thor. There are, however, several explanations how you could solve this problems:

A) All that "myth stuff" isn't true. These stories were made up by the Vikings. Thor never lifted the Midgard Serpent, he never disguised as Freya, Loki never killed Balder. And in the MCU, there is no mythological Viking story that tells of Loki's giant heritage. So the fact that Loki is a frost giant was a secret in Asgard and Midgard.

B) All the "myth stuff" is true. However, it didn't happen to the current versions of Thor, Loki, Odin etc. Ragnarok already took place once, Asgard had been destroyed, all the gods were reborn. Thor in his first life lifted the Midgard serpent (and that's what the Vikings tell us about in their sagas). The current Thor didn't, he was a small boy during the Viking age. The first Loki was a son of a frost giant (so that's the reason why the Vikings and all scholars of Norse mythology knew it), but the current Loki didn't know that this was also true for him.

C) All the "myth stuff" is true, but it didn't take place during the Viking era, but some centuries later. Loki and Thor weren grown-ups then. In the MCU, there are no Viking stories about adult Thor and Loki - all these stories come from the Icelander Snorri Sturleson (who was a Christian and no Norse pagean) who lived in the 12th/13th century. So Snorri knew Thor and Loki when they were adult and wrote down their stories.
OR Thor and Loki simply grew up at a normal rate and still did the things it says they did in the myths. Asgardians are extremely long lived but who's to say it takes them centuries to reach adult hood, they might reach adulthood around the same speed as humans.

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