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Originally Posted by ThePhantasm
What? Of course it wouldn't have happened... because Ra's Al Ghul would have %&*^ing destroyed Gotham City! Stopping a villain and then stopping his students / daughter from doing the same thing is beneficial to society, not harmful.
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Ra's hints that Batman is only delaying the inevitable, and that Gotham would be better off starting from scratch. It's a formula that the LOS had been using for millennia, apparently. And in TDKR, Talia was mostly there for personal revenge. You can't convince me otherwise.
So Batman really only saved the day in BB. In TDK and TDKR, they only highlight the (pretty negative) consequences of his existence.