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Old 03-26-2013, 03:16 PM   #551
OutRiddled
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Default Re: am I the only one who DIDN'T think Nicholson nailed joker??

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Originally Posted by The Joker View Post
Vicki Vale was shrieking damsel in distress character. Chase Meridian was a laughable caricature who was supposed to be a professional shrink who throws herself at Batman on the roof of Police HQ.[

If you consider these better written characters then your standards are so low they're practically sitting in hell
Oh, c'mon, she was like I'll slap you in the face because I'm your moral compass and your inspiration to become a better man. That was her only purpose in the movie. She wasn't a character, she was a plot device.


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Let me get this straight: You're saying you wanted Catwoman portrayed with no costume, no Selina Kyle name, and just some pretty thief who robs rich old ladies?
No, but that could've been used for her introduction instead of what we got. Her making Bruce Wayne look like a cripple and an idiot.




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Are you as Crazy as Harvey Kent? How does an inanimate object like a coin hold the blame for what Maroni did lol?
Maybe you should actually read the comic. It's on the pirate bay somewhere. I read it a long time ago and can't be bothered looking for it again.


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No, it wasn't. It was written as a Joker movie guest starring Batman. That was one of the common complaints about the movie. That Burton was clearly more interested in the Joker than Batman.
That's because Batman is a character that likes to hide in the shadows in Tim Burton's movies. Perfect contrast to the Joker. Burton even says so in the commentary on Batman.



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How does that make them two sides of the same coin? Batman doesn't go around chasing random women he sees in a photo.
Bruce is going after Vicki. Joker is going after Vicki. "Nice apartment you got here. Lots of space." - Said by both Bruce Wayne and Joker to Vicki.

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How naive are you? Even Dent didn't buy that one. "Your men. Your plan".

Osama Bin Laden wasn't in New York when those planes crashed into the Twin Towers. His men and his plan though. Does that absolve him of any responsibility for 9/11?

Stop talking nonsense.



Bruce: "Gotham needs it's true hero and I let that murdering psychopath blow him half to hell"

Maroni: "Take it up with the Joker. He killed your woman. He made you like this"

Dent: "The Joker chose ME!"

Gordon: "The Joker took the best of us and tore him down"

Take the hint, OutRiddled.



OutRiddled, I am thinking at this stage you're either trying to pull my leg here, or you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer (no offense).

The Joker was feeding Harvey a load of bull to bend his mind even further. This is what he was gloating about to Batman later. "I took Gotham's white knight and I brought him down to our level. It wasn't hard. Madness as you know is like gravity. All it takes is a little push".

You're also ignoring the fact that he eventually said to Harvey "When I say that you and your girlfriend was nothing personal....you know that I'm telling the truth".
It wasn't made so clear. Like I'm supposed to believe that the Joker made all of these elaborate plans. It's not even made clear that he took over the entire mob. "Tell your men they work for me now" is all we get. Joker in '89 killed Grissom, and all of the other mob leaders. I tend to believe that Joker is as he says "just a mad dog chasing cars", because I find it hard to believe he was able to execute all of these plans with full co-operation by the mob (especially as Maroni was still alive at that point).

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