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Old 03-29-2013, 10:36 PM   #10
Anno_Domini
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Default Re: In hindsight what changes would you do - Part 1

So I recently sat down and watched TDKR again, and I still love it and it's still the best film of Nolan's trilogy in my eyes, but I can't help but continue to think what could have been if either Nolan had more time(damn you IMAX!!! ) or had two parts, so I decided to just create some additional ideas on what I would have done in having two parts of the threequel(thus staying in tune with the IMAX time restraints). While others have just listed some ideas that could make the film seem much longer which wouldn't work because of the use of IMAX, having two films would be the best best, imo(once again, and I repeat, because of IMAX...with every positive, there is a negative I suppose...)

Keep in mind that I am perfectly fine with the plot of TDKR, so I wouldn't make huge changes, and only just additional ideas.


The Dark Knight Rises, Part I:

- The first part includes Bane breaking the Bat as well as the beginning of Bane taking over Gotham.

- While the night Harvey Dent died is the last confirmed sighting of The Batman, it is not the last time Bruce Wayne put on the cape and cowl. He tried to go out at night afterwards, but there was really nothing for Bruce to do and so he decided to stay away as Batman and only follow the happenings of Gotham City from his computer in the Batcave while his leg continued to nag him but he just never did anything to fix it as he was too focused on A.) waiting to see when Gotham will need him next, such as if the "next Joker" will arrive in town and B.) his new hobby with Wayne Enterprises, which is the clean energy project.

- There is a mutual attraction between Bruce and Miranda Tate from the beginning even if Bruce doesn't want to admit it, but they finally agree to a date when they meet at Miranda's masquerade ball and while they both call it a meeting, they hope it acts more of a date(Bruce sees himself with someone like Miranda, but he can't help his attraction to Selina Kyle either).

- After Selina steals Bruce's car, she leaves it by the construction site that's right above Batman's bunker(and it's only a coincidence) which continues to intrigue Bruce regarding Selina as well as donning the cape and cowl once more.

- Foley is interested in taking Commissioner Gordon's job after hearing about the Mayor dropping him in the Spring and when Batman returns, he becomes a bit too snobby, even mentioning to Blake how he's going to be the next Commissioner once he captures Batman, dead or alive.

- After the fight between Bruce and Alfred, Alfred meets with Lucius to give him that data from the stock exchange incident and also calls Lucius out on trying to get Bruce back in a Batsuit while Alfred has been trying to get him to move on from everything. Lucius stands his ground and before Alfred leaves he asks him to keep an eye on Bruce with Lucius having no idea that Alfred is leaving Gotham.

- There is a press conference held by the Mayor that Gordon and Foley watch from the hospital room where he tries to calm down the reporters and citizens at the conference about Batman's return, promising Harvey Dent's killer will be caught and he will face the justice system that he always "believed to be beneath him." Foley smirks off and mentions how Gordon better watch out for his job since now he(Foley) and the Mayor are finally promising to bring down The Batman, something Gordon never did.

- While Bruce makes his way back to his Manor after being told to leave the Wayne Enterprises board meeting, he meets with Miranda who came to say how she couldn't make it to their date(with him being bankrupt, Miranda couldn't reach him by phone) and Bruce couldn't either(as he plans on taking down Bane) to which they then make love(thus actually giving the idea more sense since they've been attracted to each other from the beginning and were even planning on going on a date).

- After Bane breaks the Bat, he orders some of his men to also go after Selina Kyle, which is why she tries to leave Gotham.

- While Gordon orders all of his men to go down into the sewers to find Bane, Blake mentions how that may not be a smart idea, but Foley actually stands up to defend Gordon's idea(which shows just how douchey Foley is when that was a bad call on Gordon's behalf, but it's hinted that he's not thinking straight now that he knows Batman is gone again).

- Bane makes his presence known at the football game and then letting the Blackgate inmates free during his speech the following day where he reveals the Dent lie, and once he's finished he murders every single reporter in the street using the Tumbler's weapons(the massacre starts once a reporter yells out that Batman will stop him).

- A longer montage of this martial law being started. Bane mentions how the city will endure while the bomb is slid into the back of a truck, ending the first part.


The Dark Knight Rises, Part II:

- The films opens with Bruce sliding out of his bed trying to get up and that old man ties him up and does that whole ordeal, but Bruce is stayed up in that position for three months.

- More chaos in Gotham City while the Blackgate inmates, Bane's mercenaries and more lower class individuals have their way with the city while the US military seemingly do nothing. The upper class tries to rebel but their movement is shot down quickly.

- To parallel the citizens wanting Batman to be caught in Part I, throughout the siege people are heard wondering where Batman is and wanting him to save Gotham.

- Gordon tries to stay hidden to stay away from the Blackgate inmates that want his head on a platter(by Blake's suggestion) and Foley tries to get the police officers that's left to gather and rebel against Bane's tyranny.

- Selina Kyle has a change of heart and there is a fallout between her and Jen who wants to ride the storm out with the two of them together, but Selina wants to do something good now with her life.

- We finally jump back to Bruce where he has his vision of Ra's al Ghul and finally stands up on his two feet, wondering how much time he has until that nuclear bomb is ready to erupt.

- Jumping back to Gotham where the Special Forces meet up with Gordon, who's finally showing his face, with Blake at his side and getting the remnants of the GCPD together and try and stop Bane. The Special Forces guys are killed, Blake runs off with Miranda while Gordon and his men tries to run away from their hideout as Bane's mercenaries attack them, but they are quickly stopped by none other than Selina Kyle in her Catwoman attire, making an escape herself before anyone can notice that someone put a beating to Bane's men.

- Bruce climbs out of the Pit and while he's walking in the desert he runs into a group of Bane's men who have arrived to watch over the Pit and Bruce takes care of them, finally giving us a fight with Bruce outside of the Batsuit since the beginning of Batman Begins. He also looks at how Bane's men arrived: the plane that's used when Bane and his men kidnapped Dr. Pavel. Also, Bruce walks with a slight limp, thus not forgetting about his leg issues without that knee brace, but not focusing too much on it either.

- When Gordon teams up with Miranda, they are soon caught by Bane's men and taken to their hearing in front of Jonathan Crane and as soon as Crane yells out "Death! By Exile." the crowd starts to toss rotten food at Gordon, having not forgotten about the Dent lie and Jen is even there, having fully embraced this martial law state of Gotham.

- Bruce is tossed into City Hall where it's mentioned that Bane wants to keep the Wayne Enterprises members alive to witness "their creation", so we see Fredericks as well, but he's at a state where he could die any second as the captives are starving and having a much rougher time than even the GCPD officers in the tunnels.

- The war for Gotham City is much longer where Bane's army seems to have the upper hand at times.

- While getting all the kids back into the bus that have spread the word of a way to leave Gotham, Blake runs into Crane who is trying to leave as well, not wanting to get involved with the war that's going on and having no idea about the bomb. He tries to gas Blake, but Blake stops Crane by grabbing his arm before he could use the gas he has with him and knocks the former doctor out, then cuffing him to a light post(teasing Blake's first confrontation with a villain).

- Talia makes her reveal and mentions, during her story about her climbing out of the Pit and seeking revenge, that she sought out after Bane and needed to use his men and promised Bane more glory than her father ever achieved.

- And right after Talia's reveal and leaving, Bane kicks a tied up Batman to the ground, saying that he(Bruce) used Talia and should have never been able to sleep with her before he points the shotgun to his face and says "And now you'll have to imagine the fire!"(yes, I changed the sentence up a little to fit accordingly), then Selina blasts Bane away but DOESN'T follow up with a line afterwards. The scene cuts off to the next scene.

- While Talia tells the Tumbler's driver to "Kill them all.", it shows the Tumbler shooting through both the GCPD and the Blackgate inmates, while also running over Foley.

- Once the bomb goes off and Gordon starts to read off of A Tale of Two Cities, we see shots of Crane being picked up and the GCPD walking out of City Hall with Bane's very broken mask.

- While they read off of Bruce Wayne's will, there is mentions of how Bruce died during the siege and how Wayne Enterprises may be shutting down for good unless another company buys them out.

- We see Gordon about to head up to the roof of the MCU building when he's stopped by a Detective Essen who asks if he needs anyone to go with him to his meeting with the Senator in the morning(presumably regarding the Dent lie), but Gordon says no and that he needs to be alone to face the problem he created. He then heads to the rooftop where he notices the rebuilt Bat signal.

- Part II ends just as the actual film ends with Robin John Blake finding his way unto that raising platform.



Giving me the story that I really loved in TDKR as well as giving some more time on necessary plot elements and characters. Thoughts?

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