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Old 03-30-2013, 12:14 AM   #749
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Default Re: Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

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Originally Posted by Ant-manic View Post
because money isn't unlimited. because Edgar Wright hasn't given many details about his Ant-Man movie. because they've already eliminated Hank and Jan as founders. because maybe they want to add some other character.
What?
Pym shouldn't create Ultron because Disney will run out of money?
Pym won't create Ultron because details haven't leaked for a movie that is two years away?
Pym won't create Ulton because he and Jan didn't found the Avengers?
Pym won't create Ulton because Marvel wants to add another character? (That's my favorite) (Suggestion for new character: Ant-Man)


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a company is making these movies. they are motivated by more than creativity and appreciation for canon
While that is true, this company's assets are it's characters. Marvel must stay true to it's characters, otherwise, what does it have?


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why do you keep saying that as if it's a given. Wright might not use Hank at all. Wright's plans might change; ending any development on an Ant-Man movie. this wasn't Marvel's idea. they might haven't even considered it if he hadn't already had that pitch in mind. and what other elements are you referring to? there's no mention of Jan in Phase 3. the only A.I. we've "seen" has been J.A.R.V.I.S.
Ant-Man will be in the MCU, that is a given. It is a given because the MCU must be planned out in advance. The architects of the MCU have ideas planned out in advance, the MCU wouldn't work otherwise. Ant-Man is in the MCU because Marvel wants it there, not because of Edgar Wright.

You said yourself "Edgar Wright hasn't given many details about his movie." There not being a mention of Jan so far, is proof of nothing.

The only AI we've seen is JARVIS so it should be assumed Stark creates Ultron? So JARVIS is now Ultron? Do we have to call him Ultron or can we still call it JARVIS? Will he still be really polite? Making JARVIS be Ultron and Stark the creator would be confusing. Start clean with Pym as the creator.


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you do not have enough information to make that claim. it's as meaningless as saying, "Mandarin not having alien rings takes away from him." in each movie, they've drastically changed something. and all of these movies have been serviceable; despite the changes. the Avengers don't have a mansion. the Avengers don't have a butler. they didn't find Hulk in a circus. Rick Jones is nowhere to be found. Justin Hammer isn't an old british guy. Stane didn't drive Tony into the gutters. Nick Fury's a black guy. Hawkeye's not a carnie. this is its own universe. Ultron will be whatever they can market to the larger movie audience.
All of the changes you bring up are merely cosmetic. None of those changes have the impact of changing the origin story of one of the best villains of all time.


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that's all he does in the books. only fans of Pym care about Ultron's relatively uninteresting daddy issues. everyone else just remembers Thor "having words" with it and Tony Stark transforming into a woman.
Because Ultron's daddy issues are the cool part of the character. Hey Marvel, make sure to highlight that part in the film!


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i wouldn't get your hopes up. they haven't even properly introduced Thanos. they might skip Ultron and go straight to Kang or Zemo.
What? "They haven't properly introduced Thanos"? Well, yeah but we know he will be introduced considering the roll he plays in both Guardians and Avengers 2. That seems like it will be enough of an introduction. The rest of your statement is just speculation based on nothing.

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