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Old 04-04-2013, 01:43 PM   #87
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Default Re: The Reboot Joker

Originally Posted by Shikamaru View Post
There is no solid evidence whatsoever that the Joker fell into a vat of chemicals let alone that Batman dropped him in one. That origin is one of the many origins the Joker has in the comics but we don't know if it's true. The Joker's true origin is a complete mystery so we can't say for sure that Batman is directly responsible for creating the Joker in that sense.

Batman did however attract the Joker into Gotham City or at least inspired him to become the man we know him today that wants to share his insanity with the world. He exists and does what he does because he is attracted to Batman (not in the way you think lol) and finds him fun to be around. That's why the Joker appears in Gotham shortly after Bruce becomes Batman and why Bruce feels responsible for the Joker's debut in the first place.

TDK nailed all of that.
Originally Posted by Shikamaru View Post
The story about the chemicals is just one of the many stories the Joker tells. He tells a different story each time so Batman has no reason to believe any of them at this point because he's heard a lot of them. Harley was told that same version. It's very much like the different scar stories in TDK.
This is a common mistake: the chemical bath is common to all (canon) tellings of The Joker's origins- the disputable/ambiguous phase occurs prior to that. The Joker often refers to the 'accident itself'.

This is best illustrated by DC's splash page on The Joker's origin:

The chemical bath is a fixture. It has been since the first telling of the Joker's origin-

It features in everyone's favorite origin as told by Alan Moore-

Even when an "alternative" origin was attempted in Batman Confidential, the green gunk still turned up-

In the recent "Death of the Family" run, The Joker chose Ace Chemicals as the scene of his big return, as that was "where it all started"-

So, it is clear that the chemical bath is 'what happens' to The Joker.

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