Originally Posted by cherokeesam
Detour here, but:
That now infamous line from Ultimates has always irked the hell out of me. The point (lame joke) that Millar was trying to make was that France was "a nation of cheese-eating surrender monkeys," a view commonly shared by right-wingers post-9/11, and that Cap --- a hardcore right-winger himself, at least in the Ultimate Universe --- was referencing that.
The problem with that is that the French people Cap knew in WWII (which was just a few days ago, by his time clock) were brave Resistance fighters who were laying down their lives for the sake of freedom. It's literally inconceivable that he would've made a joke that would have insulted them in that fashion.
TLDR: Mark Millar is an idiot.
Detour is now over; we rejoin the traffic jam already in progress
I similarly groaned his attempt at showing Cap being clever and saying that the highest ranking Black officer during WWII was a Captain.