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Old 05-04-2013, 10:22 PM   #876
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Default Re: Why is everyone slamming TDKR?

Originally Posted by Anno_Domini View Post
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Tony is definitely much, much, much more proactive obviously in IM3 and I loved that he continue his work while dealing with PTSD, although any resolution from that is what kills Tony's arc. The PTSD is "cured", and Stark decides to destroy his armor while getting rid of his mini arc reactor in exchange to live happily(as well as making Pepper happy). I get it, Pepper was worried sick about Tony, but I still don't get the reasoning of Stark doing all of this. Getting rid of everything resembles so much like Bruce Wayne walking away from Gotham City, but there's a reason why Bruce should have and Tony shouldn't have.

These Iron Man films are meant to be in some huge universe where there's going to be an Avengers 2, and Stark getting rid of everything just doesn't add up even if "Tony Stark will return". And needless to say, Stark getting rid of the mini arc just makes Iron Man 2's plot even worse when Stark could've gotten rid of the thing in the second flick.

Stark gets rid of everything for a girl, or at least that's what I took out of it.

Bruce gets rid of his old life because he needed to move on.

Tony Stark, imo, did not need to really move on.
I see. Thanks for that little synopsis, Anno. One last question, would you say Tony is in his suit more or less than Bruce was in TDKR?

Originally Posted by the last son View Post
I've tried to tell people that the marvel movies while big now and certainly cashed in big time are going to be the downfall of comic movies. Not taking any chances, little to no themes, and just catering to children. The avengers in my eyes was just as cheeseballish as Batman and Robin. Stupid jokes and just a movie that was written by middle school kids. I may not like all the DC movies but I give them all the credit in the world for at least letting adults enjoy these characters. Marvel movies outside of the first two spiderman movies have taken ZERO RISKS and it's doing more harm than good for the art of comic book movies.
Eh, while I'm not particularity keen on Marvel's approach to comic book films(Raimi's Spider-Man flicks and TASM not included), I get what they are trying to achieve and where there major demographic is targeted. It's smart, marketable business.

With that being, this is why I am so against DC trying to copy Marvel with the "cinematic universe". Could you imagine MOS ending up on the level of TDK-Trilogy, if Supes is left alone within his own world? Reboot Batman eventually, take a well thought out and honest take on Green Lantern, and eventually take a crack at Wonder Woman, and DC could have there own thing - Great stand alone trilogies. Eventually they could do a JLA film down the road for kicks, but I digress...

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