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Old 05-13-2013, 09:58 PM   #23
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Default Re: The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 14

Originally Posted by milost View Post
Oh, and The Dark Knight Returns Bruce Wayne and Batman is a very different character than the TDKR Bale Bruce/Batman.

In Returns, Batman isn't a cripple. He envies youth and is humbled by everything he's experienced. He's an older man that has been at war for decades. He's a couple of years away from 60 and is much more obsessed, dedicated and driven than the Bale was depicted in TDKR. "Slapping on" mechanical enhancements is completely understandable.

In TDKR, Bruce is a moping cripple. Both personas have been dormant and he hasn't done anything in years. He's what? In his late 30's, 40? He's been Batman for about a year. He's not humbled, he's overconfident, foolish and he's right back to where he was in Batman Begins to the point where he has to relearn. He's not driven and he underestimates his enemies just like he did when he was Batman for the first 3/4 of his career.
So Batman who retired after the death of Jason Todd and the government bill to put superheroes into hiding that uses mechanical enhancements to go back out is fine?

But the Bruce Wayne who retired to achieve a victory (based on a lie though), the death of his one love and the person anchoring him to his life outside of Batman, the death of the person he thought could save the city without the need for a mask and allow him to retire and leave Gotham in peace (something he is allowed to do at the end of TDKR with Blake taking up the mantle), attempts to create a clean energy supply for Gotham but then it's discovered it can be turned into a bomb, is injured, then exiles himself after all his perceived failures and goes back out with a death wish while wearing a leg brace (again, used for symbolism mostly) and then recovers over the course of (just a guess from what we see) 3-4 months enough to go back to Gotham and end it should not be wearing a leg brace?

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