Originally Posted by BatLobsterRises
Breaks my heart a little that Rag didn't like the film, considering how much I loved his input during the buildup here. (I think I saw it at the same showing as you in Lincoln Center btw Rag). Especially considering the great posts you used to make about Bruce Wayne's journey, and how much the film really fulfilled all of that stuff.
Ah well. I certainly don't fault the third film in a series for leaning on elements of the first two films. It was meant to close off the trilogy. That's the decision they made from the get go. Even Jonah Nolan said that you like to think of each movie as stand alone but the truth is when it's a trilogy none of them really are. I think that's how they approached TDKR. "We're making a trilogy here, stuff that happened before matters and will tie in." No pretenses about making a fully stand alone film. If you go to see a third movie in a franchise, do the required viewing.
Personally, I dig that. One of my biggest pet peeves of the previous Batman franchise was next to 0 continuity between films. I liked that certain elements weren't off the table to be revisited.
Part of what irked me was how HARD it tried to be associated with BB and TDK as if we didn't know. I hated the flashbacks, I thought they were a lazy way to not have to go into explanation about BB. The only good one was the first one with Harvey, which seemed more like Gordon reliving a Nightmare rather than blatantly trying to remind us what happened.
Still I did enjoy parts of it, particularly Tom Hardy and Anne Hathaway, I thought they were pretty awesome ad their respective characters.
A big deal to me is that little changes in that film could have made it godly and I'm not sure how some of those were missed.
Originally Posted by Isearch4dope
So short and epic a response this is!!!! I guess the people who liked it and thought it was enough will forever think we are spoiled brats who want it our way but that's not the point at all. It's like giving a baby milk that's nutritious and fresh and one day you just decide to give that baby spoiled milk because you're not up to going to the store.
I don't think anyone is spoiled actually. I understand loving TDKR to some degree and I don't fault anyone for it. It wasn't what /I/ wanted to see though and certainly not as good as it could have been even for what was presented to us the way it was.