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Old 05-24-2013, 08:33 PM   #687
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Default Re: How long before the fan community turns on the Nolan films?

Originally Posted by Shikamaru View Post
Yes, there are people who refuse to believe that. Me personally, I believe it but I don't care. lol
And that's fine, I guess, lol. Most that do not like TDKR just tend to pretend blindly that the film didn't receive a great amount of praise.

Alright. Misread your post. Yeah, I confess to the crime .

Yes, it does work both ways. There are many people that would source the GA's opinion of TDK as evidence for TDK being objectively great and then use the Bayformers argument when the GA has a different opinion than theirs. I do admit that I was one of those people when I was younger until I grew up and realized that that argument is complete BS from start to finish regardless of whether or not a movie is bad. However, that is precisely what Excelsior and I have stated.

Also, if you think about it, the GA isn't any smarter for loving TDK. What's the main reason for why they love Bayformers? "ZOMFG! Giant robots are fighting and it's so cool!". What's the main reason for why they love TDK? Because they love the themes, messages, and all that good stuff? For some, that is precisely the case (i.e. people like us and the critics, as well as some other moviegoers) but for a huge chunk of people that went to see it in theatres just to see Batman kicking butt, their main reason for liking the movie is "ZOMFG! Batman is so cool at fighting and he throws cool batarangs!" Not that there is anything wrong with liking a movie for that reason alone.
Bingo. CB fans can definitely be both ways. Sometimes I'll even bring up the GA audience on TDKR, but most of the time it's also because most of my friends would fit that demo, but still...when a fan of TDK likes the film, they could bring up that the general audience enjoyed it as well...when someone doesn't like TDKR, they will bring up that the general audience also enjoyed Bayformers, so it's a very touchy subject, lol. But hey, at least the Bayformers films never got anything higher critically than 57%....Nolan's trilogy: 85% - 94%.

Actually, he did say that. Yes, the other 2 films had practical effects too but TDKR took it to a whole other level. It is Nolan's most ambitious film to date in the sense of the effort he put in using an even more minimum amount of CGI and special effects than he usually does (which is not a bad thing BTW; just stating what Nolan said).

That is at least true about the parts of the film that do indeed show that. Like I said before, around half of the film or even more doesn't feel like Nolan's most ambitious film to me, at least not from a storytelling point of view.
Realistic for practical effects is one thing. You made it sound like he said he wanted TDKR to be the most realistic, and just that, lol.

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