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Old 05-27-2013, 11:51 PM   #44
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Default Re: Updated Rating for The Dark Knight Rises

Originally Posted by Anno_Domini View Post
Agree that Nolan skimmed over certain parts but moved unto other things for what's in the now as opposed to what storylines were in the last movie, but still...what could've been said more about Rachel's letter?
Everything. Bruce believing that Rachel wanted to stay with him is all what made Bruce quit as Batman. If Bruce had read the letter before, who knows what would have changed. But Bruce doesn't seem to even care.

Originally Posted by Anno_Domini View Post
The other two things you mentioned, I can see why they should've been explored, but they were never major problems I had. The most I have is Gotham not having a voice in the return of Batman and then the disappearance of Batman. Those were my main issues. The other things I feel we had enough. Bane revealed the Dent lie and things had to move forward as there are bigger things to deal with and in the end, as mentioned in the beginning of the film, Gordon is a war hero and he should be praised as much as Batman since the both of them were behind the Dent lie and Gotham built a statue of Batman.
How could we have had enough of something that was merely proposed in TDK? Those character lying in TDK was the tip of the iceberg as to the possible consequences of it. According to the movies themselves, literally, everything Batman and Gordon achieved would be destroyed if truth would emerge.

And as you say, Gordon was a war hero and Batman got a statue instead.

Originally Posted by The Joker View Post
He believed him. He said "You're sorry. You expect to destroy my world and then think that we're going to shake hands?". So by saying Alfred destroyed his world telling him that, he is obviously believing him about Rachel choosing Dent over him. Then there's the scene where Miranda holds up Rachel's photo and asks who she is, and Bruce looks at it with a quiet sadness.
I have to see the scene again. I didn't believe Bruce would only react calmly at that after all the decisions he had made based on a lie.

I think I interpreted Bruce's words as "You expect to come and do something to destroy my world so I stop being Batman." As in 'are you saying this just to make me stop???' But that doesn't necessarily mean he believes it.

The quiet sadness could have been about her death alone.

As I said, I have to see the scene again.

Originally Posted by The Joker View Post
The Dent lie that had have had a MUCH bigger impact than it did. That should have been a poop hitting the fan type scenario when that was revealed.
If I understood you well, yes, I agree.

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