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Old 07-08-2013, 11:50 AM   #449
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Default Re: The Avengers 2! The Official News and Speculation Thread - Part 3

Originally Posted by KRYPTON INC. View Post
^Other than giving us all something to argue about... Why does this "science vs. magic" argument really come down to? The "science" in these films is no more grounded or real than the "magic".
Mostly it comes down to people misunderstanding what 'science' is. They assume it must be some kind of "tools vs spellcasting" dichotomy, when it isn't. Science is simply the rigorous attempt to understand and describe the universe around you; magic isn't its opposite, its just something we don't yet understand.

Now, there is an opposite of science, and that's *superstition*. However, superstition is not magic, and magic is only superstition when it doesn't actually work. Magic, as it exists in nearly every story, is something that either could be subject to the scientific method, or actually already is subject to such ( what do you think a classical wizard is doing when he's experimenting? ).

As for how magic will be in the MCU? I suspect that it will have a "scientific" justification, in the broad and vague sense. It has rules, and causes, and methodologies. Some of its bases have probably been touched upon by contemporary science even, like the "brain slot" and the studies of Tesseract energy. Its just that this won't actually be particularly important to, say, Dr Strange, and he's not going to spend a whole lot of time trying to use the observed properties of spellcasting to achieve unification between quantum mechanics and relativity. He's going to be fighting other magic-using entities from other dimensions.

( The Asgardians probably *do* properly understand the science of "magic", though to them "magic" is probably not a singular force so much as a couple different things commonly mixed up by less advanced societies. )

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