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Old 07-15-2013, 08:50 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by ThePhantasm View Post
I know that's the whole point. Blake doesn't have the same connection to the bats that Bruce does. For Bruce it all goes back to the tragic night his parents were murdered. Its like his purpose finally consumes and shrouds him in that cave as the bats swarm him. Blake doesn't have that connection. The bats are incidental to his character. Bruce's encounter with the bats is epic because it is laden with meaning. Blake's encounter with the bats is empty and lifeless.
What were you watching? There's a smile and excitement on his face when the bats hit him. I remember seeing that at the midnight premier and just feeling like OMG that's exactly how I envision Robin reacting to such a thing. Even the way he FLIES into the cave (like a.. heheh).

Originally Posted by BatLobsterRises View Post
To me he's reacting in awe and almost boyish wonder (heh, get it?).

It makes sense too, because when Bruce went down there he was 29 and had just spent 7 years trying to find himself and carve out his path. Blake was somewhere in his early 20s, and he had just quit being a cop (his equivalent of Bruce leaving Gotham). He still has plenty of growing to do. His journey is just beginning. But now he has a path he can follow.

This might sound weird, but the way I see it- Wayne Manor being turned into an orphanage/Blake getting the coordinates to the cave is something like the ending to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, where Charlie and his family inherit the factory. That element of the wealthy, eccentric hero entrusting his fortune and legacy to a good-hearted member of the lower class that really resonates with me. I could see how that might be too saccharine or sentimental an ending for some people's tastes, but I thought it was really touching. One thing that was consistent about Bruce throughout this whole trilogy was that he believed in the good people of Gotham.
Exactly. And that's the whole point of the symbol. Is to show the good people of Gotham, the ordinary people, that they can stand up and fight for themselves and their city and the ones who try to stick their thumb over you like you're nothing. Blake/Robin represents the ordinary people. Especially now. He has nothing, no career, just himself and his motivations. The themes that were setup from Begins were finally rewarded at the very end.

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