Originally Posted by blalex620
That actually does make a perfect starting point for an Ultron as the villain Avengers movie. It actually allows for Ultron to still have been created by Pym too. I think about it like this: The Ultron A.I. somehow get's out and goes to the most tech advanced place: Stark's lab. There it overrides one of his suits taking it and fashioning his body out of it. Then a whole bunch of other stuff ensues. There's three places to go from here. 1) They could introduce the Pym's before they become heroes. Stark could go to Hank for advice on how to stop Ultron since he built the A.I. It could only be a cameo role. 2) They could introduce the Pym's as heroes in the final battle against Ultron. 3) They could give no indication of where Ultron came from and just have the Avengers figure out a way to defeat it on their own.
Option 1 would honestly be the best, imo, because it would allow Ant-Man to delve into the repercussions of Ultron on Pym and his subsequent decision to become a hero to never let something like Ultron happen again. This would be assuming Edgar Wright is up to making Ant-Man a continuation of Avengers.
Option 1 is exactly what I believe will happen.
I believe Pym cameos in AoU as the guy who actually created Ultron, but when it goes haywire, the Avengers have to come to him for help. Hell, he might even get to suit up and shrink down to go gallivanting through Ultron's microcircuitry (like he always does) to try to fix the damage. But we don't get an in-depth backstory on Pym until a few months later with Wright's film (regardless of whether or not Pym is the title character or Lang is). The Pyms and/or Lang can then get their Membership Cards in the mail at the end of the Ant-Man movie.
In your opinion.
Originally Posted by Mr. Dent
That's not his fault. I'm the one who said that's a metaphor for Iron Man creating Ultron (...which it is....)
In *my* opinion, the mask sequence (as described) shows Iron Man's helmet getting beaten and smashed,
with Ultron's head, not rebuilt.
Since neither of us have actually *seen* the sequence for ourselves, all we have is *opinions.* Neither of which is more "right" than the other. Once we see that teaser animation ourselves, we can drop back and punt if need be.