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Old 07-21-2013, 03:55 PM   #130
Senator Pleasury
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Default Re: X-Men 3...seriously fans/people--WHY all the hate?

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Originally Posted by Loki882 View Post
Bryan Singer spends two movies building up to the arrival of the Phoenix, and how it was the manifestation of Jean's powers evolving beyond even mutants. Then in X3, all of a sudden the Phoenix is a half-assed multiple-personality that's never been even slightly hinted at in the other films, and Jean spends most of the second half just standing around. Rogue's character development form the first two films being chucked out the window for a horrible love triangle. Magneto's big plan being unbelievably stupid (why does he want Jean again, exactly)? He never really says. Cyclops being killed offscreen 15 minutes into the film. Beast, Angel, Rogue, and Kitty being criminally underused. Wolverine's healing factor is strong enough to take the full wrath of the Phoenix and survive (a police officer's sidearm knocked him out in X2, Rogue nearly killed him twice in X1). The list goes on and on.
Two movies building up? More like two scenes in X2.


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Originally Posted by henzINNIT View Post
A lot of people complain about Spiderman 3 because they feel Venom was wasted. To name a few, this film squanders Phoenix, Juggernaught, Cyclops, Rogue, Angel, Colossus, Psylocke, Multiple Man, and the Morlocks; many of which are killed off or cured, destroying chances to explore them further later on. It's staggering really.

Even the cure plot is shafted to some extent, though it gets more attention than Jean does.
In a movie where you have dozens of mutants you'll have some of them in a secondary spot. Any attempt to give them equal importance is destined to fail.

But the problems with SM3 were far from only wasting Venom. To start off, there weren't as many important characters in SM3 as it was the case of SM3. But then again, Raimi's constant attempt of humor were just horrifying.

But the cure was very well developed and finally it took the themes of discrimination and fear of difference back to the stage after X2 reduced them to a mere incidental reference.

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