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Old 08-29-2013, 07:31 AM   #81
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Default Re: The Avengers 2! The Official News and Speculation Thread - Upgrade section 5 -

Originally Posted by xeno000 View Post
Why wouldn't War Machine or Falcon be popular options? If you're talking about in the online fanboy community maybe they wouldn't be, for reasons I cannot fathom since both are longtime Avengers. But Marvel has to consider fans of the MCU as a whole, not just hardcore geeks. War Machine has co-starred in two Iron Man films that cleared $1.9 billion worldwide; Falcon is going to figure prominently in CATWS. Both have been Avengers in the comics. Adding one or both would be a logical move somewhere down the line.

I honestly do not understand the online fan community sometimes. Most agree that Marvel should add minorities and women to its films, but when it does those particular characters aren't what a lot of fans want. Marvel includes Black Widow in TA? People start agitating to kill her off or get rid of her because they want some other female. War Machine and Falcon are added to the MCU? Well, don't put them in the Avengers because there are other Black heroes fans like more. It doesn't make a damn bit of sense and it's ****ing annoying.


General audiences could care less about fanboy opinions on CBMs, and usually know diddlysquat about what's canon or not. They just know that War Machine and Falcon are featured prominently (allegedly, for Falcon; but it's a safe bet) in the movies; both are superheroes; both are played by prominent actors; and if you leave either or both out of a team of superheroes, knowing full well their superpowers could be extremely useful to the Avengers, it comes off as blatantly racist. What, only white people are allowed to join? That would be the perception from movie critics and general audiences. Not to mention the fictional general consensus within the movie universe itself.

Originally Posted by Wine-N-Cheese View Post
Isn't Sam going to be affiliated with SHIELD for The Winter Soldier? That should make it really easy to introduce him into the Avengers movies.
Kinda sorta. Sam is a military officer who works at the VA Hospital in CATWS. He tags along with Cap and Widow, but it remains to be seen if he'll officially join SHIELD. But it's worth noting that SHIELD doesn't have anything to do with the future of the Avengers ---- they're an independent organization that doesn't answer to Nick Fury or any government agency.


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