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Old 10-09-2013, 05:02 AM   #29
Oswald
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Default Re: Batman hits women?

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Originally Posted by Ponyboy View Post
You're looking at it from a very narrow point of view, like a horse with blinders on. No, I don't think Batman hates criminals. Wanna know why? Because he doesn't kill them.

Hate is a strong word that gets tossed around easily these days. Hate is the penultimate feeling that leads an individual to cross that line and go right over the edge and take someone's life. Batman doesn't do this. Hell, he has more reasons to kill the Joker than any other character in his life... and yet he still doesn't. He's driven by vengeance, yes, but he's also clinging to a sense of morality. Punish the wicked, protect the innocent - that's his motto, right?

And you shouldn't mince words... I didn't say justice and vengeance were synonymous. The former is always right, and the latter can be right depending on your point of view. Both of these desires drive Batman... not hate. If you choose not to see that, then I'm afraid your understanding of the character at the present time has become muddled. Perhaps that came from some premonition you had and have convinced yourself of, or perhaps it's based on something you read which you thought was smart and decided to agree with. God knows.

In any sense... try to understand Batman's loss. The loss of a parent (let alone both of them) is traumatic, and can last with someone through their life. I lost my father six years ago... and it leaves a hole in you that can never be filled. At least that's my experience. Batman has chosen his path to keep that pain (if he can prevent it) from happening to others. This is what moves him to do what he does, not necessarily a simple "relief for anxiety" as you put it. A relief from that anxiety rarely if ever comes. All Batman can do is use the life he was given to spare others that horror.
Do you know what is revenge, and what it implies? The purpose of revenge is to release the tension that pain have generated in the victim of an affront, so it does implies a certain amount of wrath and hate (justified, on the other hand).

And I'm not sure Batman wants to avoid his tragedy happens again, he can say that but his actions don't coincide: if he really wanted the innocents don't suffer he would kill the Joker and Zsasz, but he doesn't, he leaves them alive when there isn't any reason they stop killing. In the case of the Joker he has also saved him many times from death (in the film The Dark Knight, in Cacophony and Under the Hood, and sure there are more cases I don't remember now), and the excuses he gives aren't valid for me: ok he doesn't kill him (although it's also irrational) but why he doesn't leave him die? This fact proves that people aren't his priority, that he's selfish and thinks first in him and in how satisfy his psychosis, not in how protect the innocents.


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