Originally Posted by jmc
You have to follow the rules set up in previous movies, lets be honest, Man of Steel was never intended to be a wider universe - that is fact, no one can deny this. Iron Man was always the starting point for a much larger universe. It's not comparable because it's not intentionally trying to be anything other than a superhero movie. We have a specific world set up in MoS, it's a Sci-fi world, we've got rules set up from that film, you can't just ignore them. That is what you have to think about first and foremost with any follow movie, you have to then build any new stories and characters around that world previously created. If people don't like the idea that's fine, but if I'm a screen writer I know the best place to start is by adapting a character to fit the MoS world not the other way around, because ultimately you get cohesiveness and a much better launching pad for a better story. The usual fan response is 'if it's done handled correctly' - I'm sorry but even the best screen writers can't always handle something correctly because sometimes it's just too cumbersome to adapt. I take note that no-ones bothered to bring up any faults with the idea I posted, other than it's lazy, which it frankly isn't.
-You can't make a mainstream Superhero film with a big budget, it's impossible, they're only silly comic book: Boom, Superman: The Movie happens
-You can't make a dark superhero film, that won't bring in kids and superhero movies are no longer profitable: Batman 89 happens
-You can't make a team of heroes with such flashy powers: X-Men happens
-It's the 21st century, you can't make a superhero film with their colourful costumes now, it's just silly: Spider-Man happens
-Batman is done: Batman Begins
-Begins didn't do much money, and the Joker can't be done by any new actor, and Ledger? The gay cowboy? He can't pull off the role, he's just a pretty boy: The Dark Knight
-You can't have a god in the same universe as Iron Man, that film was realistic, and that kind of crossover movie? Will never happen: Thor and The Avengers
-It's impossible to have a crossover universe, they will f*** it somehow, and magic and science can't coexist: The Marvel Cinematic Universe
Not everything that works in comics can work in films, that's true, but the interesting thing is that as time goes by, comic book adaptations have been proving that more things from comics can work in movies than we expected.
And about Iron Man, Favreau wanted the film to be the most realistic it could be, he even was inspired by Batman Begins, then he added a few nods to comic book fans and it ended up growing a whole universe, if they made gods and a rocket racoon work in Iron Man there's no excuse for DC not to be able to do the same, just by adding a vigilante dressed as a Bat you're making this universe more than just science fiction, it's all about expanding, keeping it in a bottle.