Originally Posted by DarthSkywalker
I am not talking an exact translation or a shared universe. I am talking about the characters. I feel like the first film understood Thor better, but more importantly it feels like their are back steps randomly taken in TDW with Thor. Same with papa. To make conflict, it feels like the ignored the third act of the first film in terms of character development.
Loki has been the most consistent, even if he overshadows a bit.
I'd be interested in some examples as to why you thought they did not understand Thor or what you consider steps backward with Odin.
I loved TDW because I felt we saw some real character development with Thor building on the first film as well as the Avengers. Loki is always mocking him for what he perceives to be Thor's stupidity but here we see a shrewder, wiser Thor who still retains his devil-may-care recklessness at times. Also Thor is colder towards Loki after all his crimes but he still clearly loves his brother. Hiddleston and Hemsworth were fantastic together. The best we've seen them yet.
We also see Odin and Thor in reversed roles, showing father and son are not so different after all. There are many times in the comics where Odin is pompous and stubborn and clearly not so wise after all. Also in the end Thor rethinking what it means to be a king, relinquishes his claim to the throne in favor of Midgard and adhering to his affection for Jane, furthering the rift with Odin - very true to the comics and a significant shift away from where he started in the first film.
Thor's cockiness in the battle of Vanaheim and his offer to the Kronan and Malekith for accepting their surrender were all signature Thor moments.
After Loki says "satisfaction is not in my nature", Thor's line "surrender is not in mine" is the very essence of Thor.