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Old 11-30-2013, 03:26 PM   #917
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Default Re: Goyer Admits They Didn't Plan How 'Reporter Clark Kent' Could Make Sense

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Lois didn't track him down "easily". She dedicated a lot to that investigation. She was shown to be one of the better reporters in the world. It's not as simple as "Well, she could do it, so they could do the same". The government being able to do it "overnight" assumes that people would talk to them as they did to Lois, and that each step of their journey would be the same as hers, leading to the same conclusions. I don't think you can make that assumption. Its also been suggested that some in Smallville may be protective of Clark's secrets. I would think that would especially hold true when the government came calling.
And the government wouldn't dedicate a lot to such investigation . If anything, they would dedicate a lot more to that investigation than Lois due to fear, paranoia, a desire to control Superman, etc.

Being one of the "better reporters" doesn't mean **** when you have all the resources the government has. Plus the government has many investigators just as good as Lois or better.

The government's journey would be easier and faster. Furthermore, the government has way more evidence by the end of the film than Lois did at the beginning of the film when she tracked him. Smallville being protective of Clark's identity is entirely speculation and is not in the movie. Even if that is the case, Lois still managed to get information out of them and find out about Clark Kent.

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Maybe. If the general was to remember and share this information.
What ? Of course he would remember and share that information. He wants to find Superman and considers him dangerous due to not being controlled, as shown in the film. The guy even smashed a satellite in front of him as he told him that he is from Kansas.

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But what are they going to do? Investigate all 33 year old men in Kansas...yeah, speaking of being realistic...
It is called "pulling the pieces together". Smallville would be the first place in Kansas they would investigate based on the film's events. Any suspicious story or records they find (i.e. Clark's bus rescue as a kid, the rumors going around, possible lack of birth records, etc.) would be thoroughly investigated.

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Which wouldn't neccessarily matter, as long as Clark's disguise held up, which is the biggest suspension of disbelief in the mythology. The film shows that Lois was already investigated, and she didn't tell them who Superman is.
Lois has a new co-worker who looks a lot like Superman (the military has seen his face up close so you can't use the "blur" excuse) who will presumably have a partnership and/or romantic relationship with in the future. They did investigate Lois and found out that she did in fact knew who he was even if she didn't tell them. She would continue to be investigated in the future to see if she ever comes in contact with Superman while not in the suit.

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Which again, assumes that the government or whoever would know that they landed their initially, and that they must have landed there for the purpose of that being where Superman grew up. There's nothing to suggest this in any logical sense.

And we only see the US Army tracking them into Kansas air space. Kansas is a pretty big place. I don't see anything in the film that suggests they were tracked to the Kent farm itself. Otherwise, why wasn't there military or police presence there?
They tracked them down to Smallville specifically and later found out they wanted to terraform Earth. That combined with Superman stating he grew up in Kansas would make Smallville the very first place that would be investigated.

As for why there wasn't military presence there, it was because the Kryptonian ship got there too fast (in comparison with human ships). It was about a minute or two. By the time they would announce anyone to be there, the Kryptonians would have already landed.

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And in order to determine that this would blow his identity, you would have to assume that A, the police officer actually went onto the farm and recognized Clark while he was Superman, B, that she in fact meant Superman was Clark and that she wasn't just concerned about her friend Clark because his home had just been destroyed, which is far more likely. And C, that the police officer actually heard her yell his name in the first place.
A) The police officer clearly knows who the Kents are. Lois specifically asked him to take her to the Kent farm and then he saw Superman in full costume with the house destroyed.
B) He saw her yelling "Clark!" then running directly to Superman and then flying away with him.
C) Sorry but I call BS on that. She yelled it out loud and the police officer was right there.

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Not really. You just need to use a little bit of logic and imagination when assessing the situation. Instead of making kneejerk assumptions about everything seen in the film.
The original glasses disguise from the comics as-is had enough logic and imagination for people to buy it. MOS took a "kinda unlikely but I can buy it" concept and turned it into a "how the **** can't they figure who Superman is" concept. "Horrendous" is the perfect word that describes the way they handled Superman's identity in the film. Nothing more, nothing less.

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