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Old 01-25-2014, 04:44 PM   #55
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Default Re: Superman TM 1978 vs Man of Steel 2013, was the world ready, what do you think?

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the hype for Batman vs Superman exceeds the hype for the new Avengers film by quite a bit. The reason?
1. The first Big Screen meeting of the two biggest Superheroes
2. The First big screen appearance of the biggest female Superhero.
3. Ben Affleck is playing Batman.

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Man of Steel. If this new Superman was so bad and if Zack Snyder was so bad, would the simple addition of Batman, a Ben Affleck Batman at that, really get people that excited?
In a word...yes. No one's really talking about MOS.

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Interesting how you wanted the Dark Knight in Superman's first film, when the Dark Knight was the second film of Nolan's trilogy. Reminds me of how people talk about how there was no scene in Man of Steel like the Iron Man 3 Air Force One rescue, or how we didnt see a complete character development arc for Superman like we did when Tony Stark sacrificed himself at the end of the Avengers. Patience, please. Those were the 3rd and 4th films Iron Man has been in. Iron Man 1 had none of that, yet it was the best solo Iron Man film. Theres still plenty of room for this Superman to grow.
STM is a classic and that was the first film from its series.

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Man of Steel/Batman Begins. Who was the villain in Begins again? The scarecrow, or the League of Shadows? Its my opinion Man of Steel has gotten Superman off to a much better start then Batman Begins.
Except Batman Begins was better received, both by the critics and among fans. The only area where MOS did better was BO, and Batman Begins didnt have the benefit of higher ticket prices, 3D ticket sales, and a massive push from WB marketing.

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35 years. 35 years to put the 1978 Donner film on an unreachable and undeserved pedestal. 35 years of nothing else to compare it to, which inevitably makes it the gold standard, a 'classic', right or wrong. 35 years for Superman fans to imagine the perfect Superman film, ensuring anything that falls short of their vision is a failure.
This dosen't make sense. There were four movies after STM and before MOS, as well as 3 Live Action TV Shows, and 2 Cartoons. There was plenty to compare STM to. Once again, MOS defenders try to conjure up straw man arguments to justify divisive response.

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And there is one last clue. Man of Steel is a Zack Snyder film. He wants them to cut you. He even made a movie called 'Sucker Punch' which is what it did to the audience who watched it expecting a whimsical action fantasy. None of his films have ever gone over 65% or so at Rotten Tomatoes. His movies are never going to be widely accepted because he doesnt lead you by the hand through them like Christopher Nolan. Snyder throws you in there, roughs you up, and expects you to take it on the chin like a man. Obviously this is going to make alot of people uncomfortable.
Or maybe for some people, Zack Snyder is a good visual director with flawed storytelling skills.

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