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Old 02-07-2014, 05:02 PM   #21
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Default Re: How much did Ledgers death change the ending of DK?

Originally Posted by shauner111 View Post
Yeah, Selina saving Batman. Like i said, what happens with Joker after that? Does it distract the audience for the rest of the movie if he just vanishes? Does Batman immediately capture him, and if he does, does it come off like "well that was pointless. just a way to surprise fans"...i think it would.
If the Joker was in The Dark Knight Rises, the whole narrative of the story would be different. You're asking this question like if TDKR stayed just the way it was, but Joker popped up put of the blue and killed Bane, and then what happens.

Even in that context it's obvious what happens. Batman still goes after the bomb. The imminent destruction of the whole city is more important than capturing the Joker.

You're better off asking what happened to Crane in TDKR.

And the thing that people hate about the scene with Selina, is actually the point of why nolan put that in. At least i think so. Haters dont like that a woman blew him away with a canon to the chest and it was done so quick, humiliating Bane. Making him worthless in one second, instead of giving him some epic lasting dramatic death. Well, that's the point of it. He doesn't deserve glory even in death. He deserves to be shot down dead and then we move on just like it's nothing for him when he takes out somebody who is in the way of his mission.
That's not the point. It's that they're great cinematic villains, who deserve a great exit, not an embarrassing one because it humiliates and belittles the character.

I couldn't care less if Catwoman kills a villain as long as it's done in a great classy way. Not a quick blow him away with a quippy line and then he's forgotten about right away. There was no impact to Bane's death. It was ridiculous.

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