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Old 02-20-2014, 11:24 PM   #32
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Default Re: Too much action?

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Originally Posted by Batmannerism View Post
Yes, comparisons to Superman Returns do actually get my point across,
as the common criticism of that film is that it's boring, Superman doesn't throw a punch, and is pretty much a *****.
Yes, so? That makes MOS's action good... how exactly?

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Still, critics seemed to prefer Superman Returns, mind you I haven't talked to one person who saw it and told me it was a good movie or fun to watch. While plenty of even non-Superman fans who saw MOS really enjoyed it.
Again,... so? How does that make the action in MOS any less repetitive and numbing?

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Originally Posted by Batmannerism View Post
Again, RT scores and critics aren't the ultimate authority on which films are the best, because, as I said earlier, if they are, then Toy Story is a better film than Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Dark Knight, Avengers, Lord of the Rings, and its as good as the Godfather.
So you don't think a critic's opinion proves nothing. Guess what happens when comparing MOS action to a movie that lacks of it. Same thing.

Your point, if we assume there is one, is that MOS action might be crap, but it's good because other movies have no action.

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Originally Posted by Batmannerism View Post
Your analogy is a bit OTT, a better one would have been the Goldilocks porridge metaphor, you know, this one is too hot, this one is too cold....
If you think MOS has too much action, go watch SR and be thoroughly bored, and then go watch some other Superman films till you find one that's just right for you.
Well, if you read my first post properly, you'll see the amount of action is not my problem but the lack of drama drowned in a bunch of noise and super-speed, which became boring long before the movie was ended.

So, why would I get bored with one thi8ng instead of another?

I don't need to see a movie with less action, but a movie with better action.


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Originally Posted by bluearth View Post
Nam Ek and Faora never, ever fly. They are jumping. Arent we talking about the fighting? Superman flying to knock someone down to save a person is not considered fighting. Even when he pulls Zod away from his mother its completely one sided and can hardly be considered a flying fight. Zod was simply along for the ride. If you are comparing any of these sequences to the fight between Zod and Superman after Zod masters his senses and learns to fly himself after dropping the armor, then I strongly disagree.
No, we're talking about the action, remember the title of the thread? So, Superman flying in the middle of the fight is flying in the action scenes. And Superman did fly while fighting against Faora and the other Kryptonian anyways.

But super-humans jumping incredible distances looks and feels the same as flying and thus has the same effect.

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Seeing Superman punch Zod twice between the buildings or him chasing Zod while both are flying is totally different to any fight sequence shown earlier in the film. What exactly did you want the Zod fight to be? When Zod says "Either you die or I do" thats not enough tension?
That sentence should have brought more tension to the scene. But immediately later, the fight between them feels, sounds and looks exactly like the action before it.

It's only when they hit the museum that the action changes, reaching a good tension when Zod is about to kill the family. Then I went, if only they had had more moments like that in between.

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As for mocking seeing Superman display such powers, I think you and many others will grow to appreciate it as I think it will be a long while before Superman has any reason to ever cut loose again on anyone or anything. You know, you could have had another 'superman lifts' film. Oh well, Van Gogh never sold a single painting while alive. Some people cant appreciate some nice things, I guess.
I don't mock seeing Superman's powers, but your notion that because it's the first time we see this or that, the scenes should be impervious to any criticism.

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As for the action, the only thing that bothered me was the World Engine settling over and destroying some skyscrapers. But my reasoning for disliking is different then most others. It felt too much like something I've seen before already. In fact almost immediately I remembered the Star Trek Into Darkness skyscraper destruction. I didnt like how every Hollywood film nowadays has to feature some sort of large scale urban destruction. It wasnt the carnage that bothered me, but the 'I've seen this before' feeling that did. Also I did not like the World Engine defenses on first viewing, but have come to really appreciate them. They give the film a great sci-fi comic feel. Its like those tentacles were ripped straight off a comic book page. Im actually glad Snyder decided to use them as they were his addition.
Well, the 'I've seen this before' is the thing I'm complaining, so you can relate to that.

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