Originally Posted by Rowsdower!
Yeah, but my point is, people are so tough on Nolan and Bale because Batman got beat down somewhat easily by Bane (which totally made sense in the movie and with the Bane character), while a random thug mops the floor with Bats in Batman '89 and he barely puts up a fight.
Mickey Rourke getting owned 40 minutes in Iron Man 2, GENERAL Zod getting beat up by a scientist in the opening of Man of Steel, Electro getting beaten midway through ASM2. Those are how you DON'T build up a villain, Bane crushing Batman in a Bat movie, that's how you build your most credible on screen Bat-villain post Heath's Joker. No mind games, just pure physical dominance.
I don't get the childish reasoning that it's wrong because Batman loses, it's the same kind of bs that comes out of Super-fans mouths when they get a little bit pissy because Batman has shown any sort of superiority over Superman, why would you ever want a hero to always win all the time?