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Old 04-20-2005, 09:30 PM   #65
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Default Re: Was BF a "decent" Batman Film or Not?

Originally Posted by The Guard
The Riddler's riddles have never been extremely brilliant or difficult in the comics. They are not difficult if you have the right mindset and can get into it quickly and see things the way The Riddler does, and Batman has always been able to solve them fairly quickly. For one thing, The Riddler has a compulsion in leaving riddles: He, on some level, wants to be discovered, and he wants to be pursued. He wants Batman to know how smart he is, how much planning went into each caper, and that he's not just the average criminal (even though, though his actions, he is).
Does he have a compulsion to leave stupid and lame riddles as well? The Riddler character in the comics has a manic exterior personality that hides his calculating arrogant interior personality; Carrey puts no dimension to the role and plays the Riddler like Ace Ventura on crack. But that is not Carrey's fault. Jim was given such horrible material to work with to become the Riddler, that he had to adopt his own flair into the character, which ultimately overpowered any minimal elemets of The Riddler that Carrey was given. Jim did this to ensure his character could be recognized throughout the film...because his riddles certainly left nothing of a mark.

The riddler in BF makes me appreciate Frank Gorshin.

Originally Posted by The Guard
Definitely a decent Batman film, if not a perfect one.
Yea definately a perfect Bat-film, especially with the likes of these great aspects:

-A mockery of what Batman really is
-The portrayal of Burce Wayne as a spoiled brat that didn't get his way rather than a vengeful person with motive to stop evil.
-Batman being transformed into a commercial shill for the WB to sell merchandise
-A Robin in his MID-TWENTIES
-A physically goofy and loud Two-Face
-Riddles that the Riddler conceives are stupid and predictable
-A love interest that felt like a cardboard cut out
-The moronic action (a grappling hook swinging a bank vault into a skyscraper)
-Camp, comedy, and over the top stunts
-CGI city...Gotham felt like it was built in a studio behind a blue screen. It was Las Vegas, not Gotham

What?!?!?!...That is Batman to a T!

Give me a f@#$ing break...

The idea had been growing in my brain for some time: TRUE FORCE. All the king's men cannot put it back together again.

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