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Old 03-22-2013, 05:37 PM   #635
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Default Re: Webbing formula - Part 1

Originally Posted by Elxiah View Post
Guys, I know that callulose acetate is a big subject around here, but why not nanocellulose. I know that Widow couldn't get his hands on it due to the market not being ready yet, but you can make it youself! All you have to do is pound 100% pure cellulose (which I know walt has) and put it through an acid, such as hydochloric (the process is called hydrolysis). If it doesn't work as well, you don't have to switch. It's more of a gel, so i would work well with gel spinning (if anyone is still using that). Cellulose acetate is better for electro-spinning. Maybe you could use BOTH! I know that they can also be solved by water if tweaked a bit (if that helps anyone, but it won't harden quickly, unless there's a solution that I haven't found) so that you could hold it in plastics. Just an idea anyway.
Dude, hydrolysis is putting something ionic in water and the ions separating. Usually it is done with an acid to form H30+ and some sort of salt precipitate. So that's not hydrolysis. Cellulose acetate is used in many solutions that have to make glazes, like eye glasses and the stuff they put on the outside of playing cards. I actually know nothing about nano-cellulose except that it is composed of nano-fibers that can be used in inter-locking strength in the formula.
EDIT: Plus, hydrolysis is only in equilibrium reactions, meaning you would have to form a precipitate in order to get the stuff anyway, or make it into a gas. You would have to make one side of the reaction favored in order to do that.
Example of a hydrolysis reaction, using acetic acid with WATER to form the conjugates hydronium and acetate ions.
CH3COOH + H2O ↔ CH3COO− + H3O+

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