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Old 04-20-2011, 07:02 PM   #16
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Default Re: Bryan Singer: Why 'Superman Returns' Didn't Work

I don't think Donner's Jesus thing was so much in your face as Superman Returns. That' why I hate the Donner cut. More of this Jesus comparison that I've never liked.

Superman, imo, has nothing to do with Jesus except both being forces for good. But this crap that Jor-el knows all his decisions and sent him here to save is us just...CRAP.

Originally Posted by mego joe View Post
I think Singer's biggest problem is that he really only has one reference point and that's the Donner films, and I don't think he actually understood them. I think he latched onto one aspect of the character with which he identified and ran with it. His perspective on the characters and the Superman universe is extremely limited and he just didn't know how to tell a good Superman story based on that one reference point and the one angle of the character- loneliness. To base a whole Superman story around that and have it dominate all aspects of the film including story, theme and tone is just a recipe for disaster.

Essentially his version of SUperman attempts to show that the only reason he accepts Earth as his home is that because of Jason he's finally not alone. That's just incorrect in every way. Earth is his home b/c despite his biology he's emotionally human. And Singer didn't understand that Jor-El was wrong when he said "You aren't one of them." The whole point of Superman: The Movie and SUperman II is to show that he IS human and he has to forego a normal human life b/c his responsibilty to be SUperman is so great and he CHOOSES to do the selfless thing b/c he's been raised by the Kents to be a good person- a selfless person.
Exactly. Loneliness is a theme for Superman but there's so much MORE than that and the problem is that Singer never understood that Superman is about optimism and he never had that in the movie. The whole Clark Kent persona comes from the fact that he wants to be human and has human emotions.

He was just a loner the whole movie, acting like Spider-man. "Nobody loves me and nobody cares about me but my mother." He almost didnt go to save the plane. The thing is that Singer doesnt know how to write DC characters or know that Superman is supposed to be an archetype of goodness just like the Joker is an archetype of chaos.

The Donner movies were bright, fun and adventurous. Singer only did that during the plane sequence.

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