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Old 11-24-2012, 01:55 PM   #821
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Default Re: Discussion: North Africa & Southwest Asia Regional Issues II

Originally Posted by Shemtov View Post
So basically, you didn't read the article and just assumed it was lies because of the site it's on?
Doesn't it seem like a double standard to accuse Wikipedia of bias by using article from a website with an obvious political agenda?

Originally Posted by Midnyte_Sun View Post
I agree that Hamas is not doing any favors for the people of Gaza. Lobbing rockets over to Israel isn't going to win them any respect from their criminal neighbor.

Israel is partly to blame also because it wants to punish the Gazans for electing Hamas by ground invasion, killing civilians, and bombing the hell out of the city and making life very difficult there for them. There are other Israelis, like the son of former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon who think that because they elected Hamas, Gaza should be nuked:

Israel should flatten Gaza like Hiroshima, says Ariel Sharon's son Gilad

"We need to flatten entire neighborhoods in Gaza. Flatten all of Gaza. The Americans didn’t stop with Hiroshima – the Japanese weren’t surrendering fast enough, so they hit Nagasaki, too...There should be no electricity in Gaza, no gasoline or moving vehicles, nothing."



I just don't understand why America, the biggest financier of this conflict has shown little to no leadership in this conflict for over a decade. They just blindly give majority of their aid to one party, Israel, even though Israel has done little to nothing to change the status quo. This tells the Arab world that America does not want peace in the region either, and it wants more settlement expansion, and more oppression of the Palestinian Arabs.
The problem is I think there some left wingers who say the underdog is always right in a conflict and that is just not true in every case. Salman Rushdie pointed out this blind spot some left wingers have and he is hardly some Fox News arch Conservative. Its seems like a lot of rabid pro Palestinian supporters make the same mistake a lot of rabid pro Israeli supporters make, they turn this into a black and white conflict, when its a gray area. They present themselves as heroes and the other side as villains and thus everything gets oversimplified. Nothing is ever going to change with this mind set in place, real life is more complicated then that.

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