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Old 09-27-2013, 07:37 AM   #1000
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Default Re: The Avengers 2! The Official News and Speculation Thread - Upgrade section 5 -

Originally Posted by The Caped Knight View Post
See this all but confirms Stark is responsible for the creation of Ultron instead of Hank Pym.
Yeah, no. Re-posting, from five posts above yours:

Originally Posted by Vartha View Post
I guess we'll have to wait and see what pops up in Thor and Cap.

EDIT we don't really know that Tony didn't already start working on the AI for Ultron BEFORE IM3 and it get's released that way
We don't know that Tony Stark has anything to do with the creation of Ultron. He might very well just be a victim of it instead of a creator of it.

And I think that the theory that this teaser shows Ultron being "forged" out of the Iron Man helmet has actually been disproven. Iron Man's helmet isn't being "forged" or "re-forged" --- it's being *attacked.* There's actual blades ripping through it, tearing it apart. That's not how you re-forge metal.....if forging was going to be the takeaway from this teaser, it would show the helmet being beaten, hammered, melted down and reshaped, *not* ripped apart with blades.
The teaser suggests that Iron Man is the *vessel* for Ultron's arrival, *not* that Stark creates him. I strongly, strongly suggest that people read Bendis' Mighty Avengers from a few years back, particularly the story arc that featured Ultron taking over Iron Man.


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