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Old 10-14-2013, 09:01 PM   #180
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Default Re: Rank the Iron Man movies (IM, IM2, and IM3)

Originally Posted by A Necessary Evil View Post
He didn't change? I disagree. He went from being 110% dependent on the suits, to being able to function as a human again, while always confirming his place as Iron Man. I still don't see the problem with the Mandarin thing??!? We got the Mandarin, there was no "hey we got the mandarin for you LOL KIDDING here's Killian."

Killian is the Mandarin. There's even an article out there somewhere that proves the comic influences on this. I will agree I wanted more War Machine/Patriot, but here, his role felt natural, unlike IM2 where he was shoe horned in. I'd rather see short bursts of action, with great character moments, that tons of action with little character moments. Now, back to the twist, here's my question for you :

Suppose Kingsley wasn't Slattery. He was really the Mandarin. Well, for the third act, what do you do? He has to go toe-to-toe with Stark, otherwise there's no point. He'd essentially take Killian's place at the finale, but that would be god awful. Really glad they didn't give him the rings, plus seeing old Kingsley square off against Downey Jr. Then there's "well what do you do with Aldrich?" This isn't comic Aldrich, who was in like, a panel and then killed himself. This one felt no remorse for what he had to do.
The problem with the Mandarin thing was that Ben Kingsley in the earlier scenes was an amazing Mandarin. Then to find it out it was Killian was very dissapointing. They could have still had Killian being the one to fight Tony in the Finale, but Kingsley could still have been the Mandarin.

You say in the movie, Tony was 100% relying on the suits, and yet he barely spent any time in them, so that is a big flaw in the movie. In 3 of the biggest action scene's in the movie he was in the suit for about 5 mins, yet he relies on them? Doesnt fly.

2018 movie ratings out of 10:

1)Avengers: Infinity War-9.5(2)A Quiet Place-9(3)Black Panther-9(4)Deadpool 2-9(5)The Shape of Water-8.5(6)Ready Player One-8(7)Solo: A Star Wars Story-8(8)Jurassic World- Fallen Kingdom-7.5(9)Tomb Raider-7(10)Pacific Rim Uprising-7
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