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Adrian Brody 45 7.33%
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Tim Roth 25 4.07%
Steve Buscemi 6 0.98%
Crispin Glover 104 16.94%
Bruce Spence 1 0.16%
Benicio Del Toro 20 3.26%
Willem Dafoe 18 2.93%
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Old 12-20-2004, 06:51 AM   #1
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I was wondering, if the Joker made it into a Begins sequel, who would be your choice of actor, and how should the Joker be portrayed on screen?

Would you like him to camp it up or to be really, REALLY dark?

And what should he wear, would a purple suit look right, and how should they implement the origin?

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With all of the "Cast Joker" threads, this one actually asks some new questions. I like that.


I think we should stay away from camp, for the most part. This Joker has to be PURE EVIL. We want people to enjoy the fact that he IS The Clown Prince of Crime. He has to be purely ruthless, his jokes have to be more cruel than cute, and his eyes have to have the look of pure insanity...because that's what Joker is...he's insane.

Yeah, we love to laugh at him sometimes, and there would be moments to do that, but the heart of the character has to be of pure fear & hatred. It's ok to like him, but like him b/c he's evil and likes being evil, that's it.

I think a purple suit is something you can't touch...but I'd like to see a variation. He's always wearing straight purple with green & orange, maybe a bit of light blue. Nicholson's wore plaid, a fashion moment of the era. I'd be more interested in a fitted suit that was maybe black with purple pinstripes, or at least purple with black pinstripes. If the suit is all purple, which I think would be the way to go, as easily explained by the suit losing color dye when he falls in the vat of acid, I think a different color combo may work better, but I'm no fashion major. I just think he wouldn't wear orange and green silk. Nolan's Joker will probably be more realistic than that, don't you think?

As for his origin, I think they'll parallel his to Bruce's, to create the ultimate yin-yang relationship between the two; they're both the same, but made different choices. Burton tried this, but I think he failed. I don't know how Nolan will tell the origin any differently than Burton did, to be quite honest. Let's hear your thoughts.

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Thank you for the support. I want to make this the sort of official Joker in Batman movies thread and I was fed up of all the silly "Jude Law as Joker" threads. I wanted one with substance.

Thanks for your cool response

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SAW is one of my all time favourite horror movies, and I was watching it last night, when Michael Emerson birefly looked so much like Joker. I was wondering if someone could do a manip of this picture for me so we can see if he really would look like Joker? It would be much appreciated.

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With all of the "Cast Joker" threads, this one actually asks some new questions. I like that.


I think we should stay away from camp, for the most part. This Joker has to be PURE EVIL. We want people to enjoy the fact that he IS The Clown Prince of Crime. He has to be purely ruthless, his jokes have to be more cruel than cute, and his eyes have to have the look of pure insanity...because that's what Joker is...he's insane.

Yeah, we love to laugh at him sometimes, and there would be moments to do that, but the heart of the character has to be of pure fear & hatred. It's ok to like him, but like him b/c he's evil and likes being evil, that's it.

I think a purple suit is something you can't touch...but I'd like to see a variation. He's always wearing straight purple with green & orange, maybe a bit of light blue. Nicholson's wore plaid, a fashion moment of the era. I'd be more interested in a fitted suit that was maybe black with purple pinstripes, or at least purple with black pinstripes. If the suit is all purple, which I think would be the way to go, as easily explained by the suit losing color dye when he falls in the vat of acid, I think a different color combo may work better, but I'm no fashion major. I just think he wouldn't wear orange and green silk. Nolan's Joker will probably be more realistic than that, don't you think?

As for his origin, I think they'll parallel his to Bruce's, to create the ultimate yin-yang relationship between the two; they're both the same, but made different choices. Burton tried this, but I think he failed. I don't know how Nolan will tell the origin any differently than Burton did, to be quite honest. Let's hear your thoughts.
Actually plaid was no a fashion moment of the era. Plaid had gone out long before the 80's. The 80's suits were about no design, or pin stripes. Plaid was in the 60's, early 70's. Plaid was a joke in the 80's when you saw it as it remindied you of the 60's. I wore a lot of suits in the 80's, and I shopped for them quite a bit. Not a plaid suit to be found. And thank god for that.

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I think a purple suit is something you can't touch...but I'd like to see a variation. He's always wearing straight purple with green & orange, maybe a bit of light blue. Nicholson's wore plaid, a fashion moment of the era. I'd be more interested in a fitted suit that was maybe black with purple pinstripes, or at least purple with black pinstripes. If the suit is all purple, which I think would be the way to go, as easily explained by the suit losing color dye when he falls in the vat of acid, I think a different color combo may work better, but I'm no fashion major. I just think he wouldn't wear orange and green silk. Nolan's Joker will probably be more realistic than that, don't you think?
How about this for a kind of suit Joker would wear (modelled by Mr. J candidate Paul Bettany no less!)

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With all of the "Cast Joker" threads, this one actually asks some new questions. I like that.


I think we should stay away from camp, for the most part. This Joker has to be PURE EVIL. We want people to enjoy the fact that he IS The Clown Prince of Crime. He has to be purely ruthless, his jokes have to be more cruel than cute, and his eyes have to have the look of pure insanity...because that's what Joker is...he's insane.

Yeah, we love to laugh at him sometimes, and there would be moments to do that, but the heart of the character has to be of pure fear & hatred. It's ok to like him, but like him b/c he's evil and likes being evil, that's it.

I think a purple suit is something you can't touch...but I'd like to see a variation. He's always wearing straight purple with green & orange, maybe a bit of light blue. Nicholson's wore plaid, a fashion moment of the era. I'd be more interested in a fitted suit that was maybe black with purple pinstripes, or at least purple with black pinstripes. If the suit is all purple, which I think would be the way to go, as easily explained by the suit losing color dye when he falls in the vat of acid, I think a different color combo may work better, but I'm no fashion major. I just think he wouldn't wear orange and green silk. Nolan's Joker will probably be more realistic than that, don't you think?

As for his origin, I think they'll parallel his to Bruce's, to create the ultimate yin-yang relationship between the two; they're both the same, but made different choices. Burton tried this, but I think he failed. I don't know how Nolan will tell the origin any differently than Burton did, to be quite honest. Let's hear your thoughts.
Yeah, I want a more dark humor joker, not the kind of campy silly one we got in 89, however, a great performance, still I didn't get a feeling like I should be scared of this guy. In BB, when he made his first attack, I was feeling a little freaked out because this Batman is scary. Also the bright colors don't do the joker justice.

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I like Rayne's idea of "his suit losing colour in the acid, and not wearing silk" ...and i would be glad to make this "the official joker in batman" thread. So here is my input.

I think that the joker should have a bit more crazed look to him. He could wear the purple suit, but not hav it so nice and clean. Maybe more blotchy and infected looking, (this could be the suit that he was wearing wen he fell into the chemicals, and he doesnt always hav to wear it, but in main scenes, so that its his trade mark, or goodluck charm or sumthing). It should be a little bit frayed, and look recked with some nics and scratches, and the colour should be a bit off and not perfectly STRAIGHT PURPLE (since it kinda got bleached in the acid).

Now for the actual JOKER!, i think a good take for the Joker would be (if anyone saw the short trailer "GRAYSON", i think the joker in that looks horrific, he is scary looking, but looks happy at the same time. Perfect combo. He has alot of rinkles, and saggy looking skin (cuz it got messed up in the chemical bath) and his eyes are very dark and evil looking. Kind of looks like he is sick or on drugs, becuz around his eyes are very dark. I beleive this would be the best look. SOrt of like the HUSH Joker, which looked creepy, disgusting, but funny. He should look terrifying, like a crazyed maniac (which he is).

AND AS FOR THR ORIGINS!

I would like to see the comedian origins. Therefore it DOES show his relation with Batman. He is a comedian, gets mixed up with the rong group. They kill his wife who is pregnant with his kid. This causes him to lose it, so the audience will feel sympathy for the character, THAN! he goes on a crime spree, batman shows up chucks him in the chemicals. AND THATS WHEN IT BEGINS!...this shows his transition from normal to insane. and if done right, you wil feel sorry for him at first, but than after he becomes joker, you will hate him, but also love him. LOVE HIM BECUZ HE IS SO EVIL! but really want batman to take him down at the same time.

IMO, this is how i would do the joker in a BB sequal (which i hope is the 3rd movie), so it can be like the finale, between the 2 greatest characters of all time

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Hmm...good ideas.

I think he should wear a purple suit but also have a long trench coat as well, maybe sprayed with blood, so that he can conceal his tommy gun.

He should have the hat as well.

In Batman '89, Jack's girlfriend was a model so I suppose he would have a lot of dodgy outfits in his wardrobe, hence his bright purple suit and silk shirts!

Just take that suit and make it "real" and dirty.

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I think that the joker should have a bit more crazed look to him. He could wear the purple suit, but not hav it so nice and clean. Maybe more blotchy and infected looking, (this could be the suit that he was wearing wen he fell into the chemicals, and he doesnt always hav to wear it, but in main scenes, so that its his trade mark, or goodluck charm or sumthing). It should be a little bit frayed, and look recked with some nics and scratches, and the colour should be a bit off and not perfectly STRAIGHT PURPLE (since it kinda got bleached in the acid).
So kind of like the Beetlejuice suit.

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I heard that they were maybe going to pick Bruce Spence but is he too old, considering that the Begins film setting is around Year One, Year Two?

Bruce Spence is also in Revenge of the Sith, Star Wars Episode 3.

He looks too old IMO.


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Yup. Awsome, good points about why his suit was purple and silky

But i must agree with the hat and trench coat, i forgot to mention them, because they are kind of a neccessity. But ya, he would definately need the trench and hat.

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Yeah, in Batman '89 he seemed to be an arty-farty guy and I suppose he would have flamboyant clothes in his closet!

But I want a real, gritty, dark Joker in any new Batman film.

The Joker should have a long coat, cool hat and a long cane - that preferably be turned into a sword!

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Ya, i think if the franchise continues, and Nolan is behind it. THat Joker will be awsome. Although i shouldn't make this judgement because I havent even seen BB. I can just tell its gonna be a good movie. I dont want to jynxe it. it may not be the best. But i think it should be the best yet. hopefully

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Yeah, I agree. It's time that Batman was taken back to his roots.

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i just hope the trademark joker lagh wont be fruity.....I want it piss my pants scary damn it.......

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I would love to see a pure evil, and diabolical Joker on the big screen, if he is choosen next for the sequel. (I'd rather see other villian first.) But if they went with The Joker I like the look of him in the Batman Dead End Short Film:



I think that is a great look with the straight jacket, but eventually get him out of the straight jacket and into the famous purple attire, but not a bright purple, more of a dark purple. And of course he would have to be insanely funny, not too campy or over the top, but just insane to the point where your like whoa, and it sends shivers down your spine when your watching him on the screen.

I am not really sure who I would go with for an actor on The Joker, I will get back to you on that one.

Great official Joker thread by the way.

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I would love to see a pure evil, and diabolical Joker on the big screen, if he is choosen next for the sequel. (I'd rather see other villian first.) But if they went with The Joker I like the look of him in the Batman Dead End Short Film:





I think that is a great look with the straight jacket, but eventually get him out of the straight jacket and into the famous purple attire, but not a bright purple, more of a dark purple. And of course he would have to be insanely funny, not too campy or over the top, but just insane to the point where your like whoa, and it sends shivers down your spine when your watching him on the screen.

I am not really sure who I would go with for an actor on The Joker, I will get back to you on that one.

Great official Joker thread by the way.

This scared the ba-jesus out of me! This look is perfect!

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I would love to see a pure evil, and diabolical Joker on the big screen, if he is choosen next for the sequel. (I'd rather see other villian first.) But if they went with The Joker I like the look of him in the Batman Dead End Short Film:





I think that is a great look with the straight jacket, but eventually get him out of the straight jacket and into the famous purple attire, but not a bright purple, more of a dark purple. And of course he would have to be insanely funny, not too campy or over the top, but just insane to the point where your like whoa, and it sends shivers down your spine when your watching him on the screen.

I am not really sure who I would go with for an actor on The Joker, I will get back to you on that one.

Great official Joker thread by the way.

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