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View Poll Results: Should Tony Stark be a drunk from the start? | |||
Yes, he should be walking the line from the start. |
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18 | 29.03% |
No, show him drinking a bit but only to foreshadow a possible drinking problem in a sequel. |
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43 | 69.35% |
No, Tony should be a flawless hero. |
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1 | 1.61% |
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So should Tony Stark be a booze hound right from the get go, foreshadow it for sequels, or be squeaky clean?
I searched the forums for drunk and alcoholic, so if there's already a poll on this subject how 'bout not pooping your pants? |
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Dude, Favs already said that Tony wasn't going to be alcohol in the first movie.
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Not asking what will be, I'm asking what people would prefer to see. And whether he's a full blown alcholic in the first movie has nothing to do with whether or not he'll be a drinker.
That and the fact that they're in pre-production and nothing is written in stone just yet. |
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Nah, not til much later. It may alienate a lot of potential fans and parents from the movie. This way, if it's done in a sequel, at least we know it's a sidestory, and not the main story.
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I completely get wanting to save it for later, and I totally agree with the point about alienating parents/children.
However... I love the Ultimates version of Tony Stark...an unapologetic drinker who actually sez "Who's gonna climb into that suit and do this crazy stuff sober?" It kinda underscores the eccentric Howard Hughesishness of his character. |
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I'm really glad he's going to be first exploring who the character is first, while creating the suit to save his own life. Jon really has expressed all the necessary base of the character, and just what he stood for when it came to his drinking problem. I think it's far better that the sequel would keep that instore.
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I do agree with that, too. It makes a lot of sense, too. If the movie were to get an "R" rating, then I could see it happening. Or, even film the footage, and set it aside for an uncut Director's Cut, ala Daredevil.
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No, show him drinking a bit but only to foreshadow a possible drinking problem in a sequel
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See how in the FAQ Fav says he's laying the GROUNDWORK for it (It being alcholism)...he can't do that without having Tony drink.
Which means he simply swills a martini once or twice. Or he can be seen sucking back quite a few throughout the movie without actually being loaded and screwing up in the armor. |
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The first hasn't even come out yet, and I can't help but be excited for the sequel now.
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He would loose his buffness
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Hint at it in the first film, but, its not relavent for a origin story.
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I like the idea better of him being an alchoholic in a sequel, leaves room for an origin and creates a really good sequel as it takes the character in a new direction.
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Why would being an alcoholic warrant an R rating? Many PG-13 flicks do it as we speak. I ain't a drinker personally, but even I feel they would be somewhat sugarcoating it. He's still a superhero, but if they show him overcoming it and still being able to save the day, I would think it would be fine for the kiddies to watch.
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I think they should show him drinking.... a bit, and in particular when he is stressed or trying to unwind.
After a business meeting some Scotch.... nothing but the best for Mr. Stark Johnny Walker Blue Label... At the end of the movie he should be exhausted and when he gets home it should be the first thing he goes for The movie may end on a depressing note if that happens though.... Him drinking alone in a dark room but it would of course be great foreshadowing. I don't get all the R rateing talk...becasue of showing a.... an alcoholic character drammas do that all the time on TV.... The OC comes to mind
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I think it should be hinted at. Not the problems he will develope from drinking, just that he does a lot of it.
I'd love a scene like from the Ultimates comic where just after climbing out of the armor, Jarvis approaches with a tray with a martini and a shaker. Someone says "For Gods sake, Stark, it's 10 a.m." to which he replies "Not in Moscow, old boy! Cheers!" |
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I'd like to see them go the 'Rocky' route - where at the end...he's failed. Mr.Too-Cool-For-School Stark falling from his ivory tower.
That's something we don't really get to see in our heroes too much anymore. |
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I kind of like the idea Favreau seems to have; that is, to parallel the comics. He could start off the flawlwess hero in the first film, and start to run into problems as time goes by.
Personally, I think they should include him casually drinking, pouring a scotch for a meeting, that sort of thing. Not call it to attention, not foreshadow at all, but have it there. Then, when they show him having a problem in the future, it can be a progressive thing. |
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Favreau has already confirmed that he won't be an alcoholic in this movie.
It's pretty awesome because his thoughts on the matter are the exact same as mine.
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